RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE CHASSIS CLUB FORUMS > Ford Motorhome Chassis Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-31-2015, 09:50 AM   #1
Registered User
 
LVRVLUVR's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,282
gas charged shocks vs non gas charged???

which would ride smoother

gas charged, or non gas charged???

will gas charged shocks lift the motor home"""

will gas charged shocks up my GvWR


__________________

LVRVLUVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-31-2015, 11:01 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
LVJ58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 2,297
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR View Post
which would ride smoother

gas charged, or non gas charged??? ---------NON

will gas charged shocks lift the motor home"""----NO

will gas charged shocks up my GvWR------------NO


On the Ford F53 chassis, the Non Gas Charged shocks such as the Koni FSD shocks seem to work best, however they're very expensive so many choose other brands most of which are gas charged to some degree....
__________________

__________________
Jim & SherrySeward

2000 Residency 3790 v10 w/tags 5 Star tune & Banks system Suzuki XL7 toad
LVJ58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2015, 11:12 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 6,336
Easy answer to questions 2 & 3 !! No & No Shocks only have one job and that is to dampen or control compression and rebound from the suspensions interaction with our lovely roads. It does not matter what kind: straight axle, independent, torsion, coil or leaf.

Your first question has to do with the design of the valving and how aggressive they are. Some will find that a shock will soften or make their ride harsher. That depends on to many other variables that can not be summed up with a one sentence or a general answer.

I'll humor you because you already know the answers. You've been down the road just a few times before.

Tejay
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
TeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2015, 11:16 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
530ktm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: High up in Arizona
Posts: 1,688
A gas charged shock may slightly raise a vehicle that is very light weight but it will not do anything to your coach and no shock is going to increase your GVRW.
__________________
2011 Monaco Knight 40PBQ towing a Jeep JK Rubicon Wrangler
530ktm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2015, 02:19 PM   #5
Registered User
 
LVRVLUVR's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,282
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVJ58 View Post
On the Ford F53 chassis, the Non Gas Charged shocks such as the Koni FSD shocks seem to work best, however they're very expensive so many choose other brands most of which are gas charged to some degree....
when you say work the best.... how many did you test>??
LVRVLUVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2015, 03:12 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Glenn NK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 161
Frankly it's been my experience with two of my own, a rental (admittedly a small experience), plus observing many MoHo's on the road, that: Coach manufacturers very often put too much coach on the chassis.

I've had leaves added and the original springs re-arched on both of the ones I owned, because after one long trip on bad roads, they both sagged.

The rental was a Class C, and it sagged before I drove it, and it had a lot of body roll. Both these seem to me like the springs were a little soft.

And whenever I'm out driving and see a motorhome, I instinctively look to see if it's level - and so many of them are not.

The trouble is, the fix is a bit expensive; my present one cost me a bit north of $2000 for an extra leaf and re-arching the rear springs.

But I am happy with the results.

I won't cover the other points because TeJay has done that well enough already.

Glenn
__________________
1998 NRV Sea View 8310 Ford 18,000lb GVW V10 Banks intake/exhaust system.
I believe in sharing the road with other drivers; they can have the part behind me.
Glenn NK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2015, 10:42 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
LVJ58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 2,297
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR View Post
when you say work the best.... how many did you test>??

Only 2, the Monroe Gas Magnum RV shocks and the Koni FSD (Frequency Sensitive Dampening Shocks) and it really wasn't a test.

The front factory OEM shocks gave out at 12,700 miles so I replaced them with the Monroe Gas Magnum RV shocks which did improve the ride comfort somewhat.

After reading numerous posts on the various rv forums praising the Koni FSD shocks, at 46,000 miles i decided try the Koni FSD's and replaced the front Monroe's with the Koni FSD's.

Insofar as the Koni's provided the improved ride comfort we desired, I couldn't justify spending any additionsl $$$ just to try different brands of shocks.

I'm reasonably sure that now, with all the advanced technology, there may be other shock brands available on the market that may even be superior to the Koni FSD's.

Best regards & Safe travels
__________________
Jim & SherrySeward

2000 Residency 3790 v10 w/tags 5 Star tune & Banks system Suzuki XL7 toad
LVJ58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2015, 11:13 AM   #8
Registered User
 
LVRVLUVR's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,282
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVJ58 View Post
Only 2, the Monroe Gas Magnum RV shocks and the Koni FSD (Frequency Sensitive Dampening Shocks) and it really wasn't a test.

The front factory OEM shocks gave out at 12,700 miles so I replaced them with the Monroe Gas Magnum RV shocks which did improve the ride comfort somewhat.

After reading numerous posts on the various rv forums praising the Koni FSD shocks, at 46,000 miles i decided try the Koni FSD's and replaced the front Monroe's with the Koni FSD's.

Insofar as the Koni's provided the improved ride comfort we desired, I couldn't justify spending any additionsl $$$ just to try different brands of shocks.

I'm reasonably sure that now, with all the advanced technology, there may be other shock brands available on the market that may even be superior to the Koni FSD's.

Best regards & Safe travels
do you do the install??? if so what rebound setting did you use???
LVRVLUVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2015, 12:04 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
LVJ58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 2,297
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVRVLUVR View Post
do you do the install??? if so what rebound setting did you use???

On install of the FSD's yes, did it myself, no adjustable settings on the FSD's

On the adjustables bought them while in Quartzsite AZ and had them installed by one of their service techs. If I recall he set them for medium action.

Just curious, why is a diesel coach owner coach posting a question about shocks on the Ford gas chassis forum

I would think if your question were posted on a diesel chassis forum one would get better insight on gas charged vs. non-gas charged shocks as they apply to a coach on a diesel chassis.

Again best regards & safe travels
__________________
Jim & SherrySeward

2000 Residency 3790 v10 w/tags 5 Star tune & Banks system Suzuki XL7 toad
LVJ58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2015, 12:55 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
530ktm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: High up in Arizona
Posts: 1,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVJ58 View Post
On install of the FSD's yes, did it myself, no adjustable settings on the FSD's

On the adjustables bought them while in Quartzsite AZ and had them installed by one of their service techs. If I recall he set them for medium action.

Just curious, why is a diesel coach owner coach posting a question about shocks on the Ford gas chassis forum

I would think if your question were posted on a diesel chassis forum one would get better insight on gas charged vs. non-gas charged shocks as they apply to a coach on a diesel chassis.

Again best regards & safe travels
Look at his avatar, not a DP. Had one in the past I believe but now it is the gasser.
__________________
2011 Monaco Knight 40PBQ towing a Jeep JK Rubicon Wrangler
530ktm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2015, 02:45 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
LVJ58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 2,297
Quote:
Originally Posted by 530ktm View Post
Look at his avatar, not a DP. Had one in the past I believe but now it is the gasser.
Oh, OK, you're probably right, however upon checking information on his profile profile I found: "RV Manufacturer Fleetwood-RV Model excursion-RV length 33d." Upon checking the model I found it to be a diesel. Perhaps he now has a gas rig, and the profile info didn't get changed.

Best regards & Safe Travels....
__________________

__________________
Jim & SherrySeward

2000 Residency 3790 v10 w/tags 5 Star tune & Banks system Suzuki XL7 toad
LVJ58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
gas, shocks



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gas door prop installed! MSHappyCampers Class A Motorhome Discussions 52 04-25-2020 09:53 AM
Water Heaters gas / gas & electric n5pht RV Systems & Appliances 4 01-30-2015 08:22 AM
Diesel or Gas. mdunner Full-Timers 22 01-15-2015 11:29 AM
Genny Gas line jastinjr Tiffin Owner's Forum 11 06-30-2014 12:22 PM
Maximizing our Gas Rewards 2Labs Just Conversation 2 06-02-2013 07:39 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×