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Old 06-15-2021, 08:46 AM   #1
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Mix & Match sway bars?

So, I had ordered a set of front and rear Hellwig anti-sway bars, but the distributor just let me know that they can't purchase/ship anything from them because they are currently in contract talks.


Now it will be back to looking for good deals somewhere else. My question to you all is what would happen if I were to put different brands on the front and rear. If, for example I found a great deal on a Roadmaster front sway bar and then a Hellwig rear, would that mess things up? Should I stick with one manufacturer? Has anyone else done an ala carte install?


These would be installed on a 2019 E-350 chassis.
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I cannot imagine that it would matter or installing one of the new sway bars would make it mandatory to also install the other. Same with doing just the front CHF and not both.

I just have the Roadmaster 1 5/8" rear supplemental sway bar, which was a very noticeable improvement in high winds. 22K 242" wheelbase chassis.

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Old 06-15-2021, 09:55 AM   #3
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Did you check Amazon for the Hellwig ?

Brands won't matter.
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Did you check Amazon for the Hellwig ?

Brands won't matter.

Yeah, the Roadmaster and Hellwigs are both unavailable and "We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
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I put a Roadmaster on the front and my Hellwig is supposed to ship the June 25th for the rear.

It's a steel bar, they are not tuned like springs and shocks. Right now with the factory rear sway bar and the Roadmaster front I have a drastically better ride. I can, however, feel the rear trying to twist the front and it really needs both heavier bars. I will also install a TruTrac at the same time as the rear.
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Old 06-15-2021, 04:12 PM   #6
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I put a Roadmaster on the front and my Hellwig is supposed to ship the June 25th for the rear.

It's a steel bar, they are not tuned like springs and shocks. Right now with the factory rear sway bar and the Roadmaster front I have a drastically better ride. I can, however, feel the rear trying to twist the front and it really needs both heavier bars. I will also install a TruTrac at the same time as the rear.
I must be lucky. My 1999 Dutch Star drives perfectly fine. No sway takes bumps or roAd imperfections without any problems. Has Bilstein shocks since 40000 miles now 73000 have added steer safe 6 yrs ago. Can drive with one finger if you like Has factory sway bar in tear and front.
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That's great for you Russ. Most of us aren't so blessed.
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That's great for you Russ. Most of us aren't so blessed.
Well, best of luck searching for that happy spot.
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We had a 1999 Dutch Star (34') and as I recall it also rode fine. We also had 19.5" tires which should have made it worse.

I have talked with a few owners who drove their units home and it was white knukled driving all the way home. Then there are those times when not loading properly will also change the ride and handling.

Just last month one member of our traveling group had a bad day of handling. We stopped for the night and suggested that they empty the full water tank. The next days trip was much better until he filled up with 70 gallons of fuel. He's now rearranged stuff to keep more weight in the front. All seems to be doing OK.

We have all learned that each MOD that is done will react differently based on all the variables from year to year and unit to unit. And as also stated do one MOD at a time so you can do a more accurate evaluation.
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The only thing that really matters in a sway bar is the diameter and the length of the "arms" on the end. After all, it is nothing more than a spring, or torsion bar if you want to look at it that way that loads up when the front wheel don't move up and down in unison. If you are using the stock mounting points, if they have any, the manufacturer is of no consequence so long as it is the same diameter and the arms are the same length.. Good luck.
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I must be lucky. My 1999 Dutch Star drives perfectly fine. No sway takes bumps or roAd imperfections without any problems. Has Bilstein shocks since 40000 miles now 73000 have added steer safe 6 yrs ago. Can drive with one finger if you like Has factory sway bar in tear and front.
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I'm pretty sure the issue with mine is size and weight. It's a 24' class c that is 12'3" high, the wind beat the heck out of it.

I've had 2 different class A coaches, 38' Fleetwood Providence and a 43' Newmar Dutchstar. Both drove great, I put on 100,000 miles between the 2. But this little C gets tossed around like nothing I've driven before.

These changes made all the difference. Some need them, some don't.

I will also add this: If there was no need for these items, there wouldn't be multiple companies making the same parts.
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One other thing to keep in mind involving "mine handles fine": When I was researching the components that are most often upgraded I found each of the RV manufacturers used various different pieces during their assembly.

Some put on sway bars, some put on the Mor-ryde, a couple offers Liquid suspension as an upgrade, etc...

So if your gasser rides great, it's most likely because the manufacture already did something.

Mine was built my MVP. If Ford would have said they would discount a nickel by leaving the rear sway bar off, they would have done it. They built it cheap, I'm into it cheap, so I can do a few things to make big improvements. I intend to keep this for a long time.
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This year has been rough on ordering parts.

Our Roadmaster front sway bar (ordered in mid-May) has been delayed in shipping twice. Seems they were experiencing delays in receiving the spring steel they need to bend up the bars.

The new estimate is early July.

In regards to some coaches needing more help in handling is multi fold. Much has to do with weight distribution and center of gravity. Talked coaches like bigger sway bars, because their center of gravity is higher. Some are too light in the front causing more wander. The list goes on from there.
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So, I had ordered a set of front and rear Hellwig anti-sway bars, but the distributor just let me know that they can't purchase/ship anything from them because they are currently in contract talks.


Now it will be back to looking for good deals somewhere else. My question to you all is what would happen if I were to put different brands on the front and rear. If, for example I found a great deal on a Roadmaster front sway bar and then a Hellwig rear, would that mess things up? Should I stick with one manufacturer? Has anyone else done an ala carte install?


These would be installed on a 2019 E-350 chassis.
Did you try etrailer.com?
https://www.etrailer.com/swaybars-20...es+Cutaway.htm
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