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Old 06-12-2020, 11:27 AM   #1
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My NEW F53 Chassis with the 7.3L V8

I picked up my new coach built on the 2020 Ford F53 Chassis with the 7.3L V8. The Ford V10 chassis is obsolete, so inthe near future 90% of Class A coach will be built on.

It is a Entegra Coach Vision 29S at 31.4 Feet.
It has the 2020 F53 18,000 lbs, 190 " Wheel Base.
It has the TorqueShift 6 Speed Transmission

I drove it approx. 150 miles on the Florida Turnpike and will be reviewing and answering any questions you might have in the thread.

This thread is for 2020 F53 discussion, not the Vision Coach.
Driving with Tow/Haul OFF on Florida Flat Highway at 65 MPH, moderate wind the average MPG is 7.5 to 8.0.
The new Instrument Cluster Photos are attached.
The new Inst. Cluster is a NOT LED display. It has an upgraded computer with fuel calculations, instantaneous and avg MPG. It is hundred time easier to see. It did not have outside temperature It does have current gear display
There is Traction Control (on/off).

There is a shifter control on the right stick that is a +/- rocker. For example, if you don't want the unit to shift into 6 O/D press the minus and you now will 5th gear as you highest gear while you are in "D".

Next post will be how the coach drove on the New 53 suspension.
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Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this. And yes, I'm super excited about the manual gear control, glad they took the effort to display the gear, too. Any change on the towing capacity, or is it still 5k?
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Unless the changed the 6 speed transmission, both 5th and 6th gear are overdrive ratios. 4th gear is a bit underdrive and there is no direct drive.
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Old 06-12-2020, 01:52 PM   #4
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Really nice very surprised it has manual gear selection will make many happy, and gear display too. Unfortunate to not have outside temperature, I actually keep mine current one on that display the most.

I was hoping for the larger screen that fully fills between the gauges but look like they went with the lowest end one.

Mileage seems slightly better hope to get more reports.

Axious to hear more about its power delivery and sound levels and any info about suspension upgrade such as sway bar diameter.

Keep it coming!
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My First Drive on the New F53 Chassis

First, it is unreasonable to compare the handling of 2500 lbs. wedge (Ford Fiesta) to 23,000 lbs Cuboid (Class A MH).

So I am going to compare the new 2020 F53 190" Wheel Base. with 2018 F53 158" Wheel Base

Both had the JAYCO/ENTEGA J-Ride/E-Z Drive

Acceleration: Noticeable improvement. Lower Volume and Frequency Engine Noise. Noticeable power increase (Torque) at lower RPM. Overall engine noise was reduced in while cruising at 65 MPH.

Shifting: The largest hill in Florida is an overpass, so I can't say much. I do think the Torque Curve with power at lower RPM will help limit downshifting. This summer we will climb out NC on I-77 to Fort Chiswell onto the Blue Ridge via I-81N flat towing Fiesta. I will report on the Tow/Haul mode climbing and descending.

The Class A MH is aerodynamic disaster. Crosswinds are going to be felt. Other vehicles pushing air are going to be felt. It takes concentration and situational awareness. A beer in one hand and a cigar in the other while steering with your leg is not recommended. The biggest help with stability is slowing down. You have a more time to react and there is an added plus, better MPG.

With that said, I feel the new chassis does handle better. The steering was tighter, the front end shimmy did not exist. There was less sway. It felt more solid.
This you tube has a more scientific comparison:


I agree with their results. This video made me interested in the new F53.
My co-pilot said I drove it better and she felt more comfortable, which is very important.

I think most MH Manufactures are slow to promote the new chassis because they have a lot of 2019 F53 Motorhomes to sell.

Would I trade a 2018 MH to get a 2020+ with new F53? I did. Am I happy I did? So far I am.

I am happy to answer any questions.
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Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this. And yes, I'm super excited about the manual gear control, glad they took the effort to display the gear, too. Any change on the towing capacity, or is it still 5k?
Yes, the Entegra Vision has a 5,000 lbs hitch.
What I am disappointed in is the Cargo Carrying Capacity of 1392 lbs.
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Know you haven’t done any hills yet, but curious if you tried the engine braking at all and what your impressions are. My concerns were never getting to the top of hills, it was going down the other side.
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Yes, the Entegra Vision has a 5,000 lbs hitch.
What I am disappointed in is the Cargo Carrying Capacity of 1392 lbs.
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I'm actually pretty impressed that you have that much CCC on a 31'+ F53 MH on an 18K chassis. Entegra must have put some engineering thought into weight management for the house they put on that frame. Those with 26K chassis MH's don't have all that much more than you.
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I'm actually pretty impressed that you have that much CCC on a 31'+ F53 MH on an 18K chassis. Entegra must have put some engineering thought into weight management for the house they put on that frame. Those with 26K chassis MH's don't have all that much more than you.
My 32' Winnebago on a 18k chassis has 2627 lbs CCC so with a full tank of water I can still carry 2000lbs. I too would be disappointed with 1300lbs, in fact I would probably be way over with a full load of water and my family on board.
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I'm actually pretty impressed that you have that much CCC on a 31'+ F53 MH on an 18K chassis. Entegra must have put some engineering thought into weight management for the house they put on that frame. Those with 26K chassis MH's don't have all that much more than you.


I have a 2019 Tiffin Open Road 34 PA on a 26k chassis and my CCC is 3,300 lb.
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I have a 2019 Tiffin Open Road 34 PA on a 26k chassis and my CCC is 3,300 lb.
My point exactly. For the 8000 lbs in increased chassis capability that you have, only 2000lbs ic added load carrying capability. Entegra is a nicely appointed brand in general. Getting 1300lbs out of a 18000lb chassis is nothing to be disppointed about. You just need to be cognizant, as all us gas MH owners have to be, of how you load it up.
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My point exactly. For the 8000 lbs in increased chassis capability that you have, only 2000lbs ic added load carrying capability. Entegra is a nicely appointed brand in general. Getting 1300lbs out of a 18000lb chassis is nothing to be disppointed about. You just need to be cognizant, as all us gas MH owners have to be, of how you load it up.
Well the 34 PA is over 36 feet long so your talking at least 5 more feet of motorhome. I do agree the nicer the motorhome generally the heavier it is, real wood, thicker wall and insulation, 30 vs 50 amp etc.

However 1300 lbs CCC means with a full load of water you have only 700 lbs left, even with just two people you would have to be very careful to not overload, honestly thats is just too little CCC for my taste.
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So you don't take a full load of water. With an 18000 lb. chassis, you are generally not going to be using it for long, heavily loaded travel. And if you are, you're going to upload and consume water and food as you need to have it, especially water. You know what your capability is. You're not going to be driving with it for any length of time or distance. 1300 lbs is still a lot of fun to be had.
The OP bought it. His trip planning is going to be predicated on his understanding of its capability. If desires change and require more capability, then he can change horses.
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Why have a tank of water if not to use it? Thats your solution, don't use your water tank, whats next only use half your fuel tank since only short trips should be taken?

I have traveled cross country multiple times in my 18k chassis towing a 5000lbs Jeep and boondocked many remote places. I have arrived at full hook up campgrounds that had their well out and was sure glad I hauled a full tank with me, I always carry a full tank. Not sure why I can't travel long distance fully loaded because its 18k? One thing I really like about my class A over say a similar class c is tank size and storage, if you don't have enough CCC then it goes to waste, or more likely people dont really pay attention and overload especially with only 1300lbs capacity to work with, that has to be micromanaged.

1300lbs CCC is on the low side for class A, that is similar to many Class C's I looked at.
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