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Old 05-05-2021, 09:24 AM   #1
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Hi All,
I have a 2001 Southwinds with the 2000 Ford F-53 sporting a V-10 engine. This engine only has 9 cylinders, however, since Cyl # 10 has no compression. Sounds fairly straight forward, right? Just get in there and take the head off to see what gives (I already know, it's the exhaust valve either stuck open or broken). I've looked high and low for a mechanic in our area who will break their back to kneel over a dog house for a week and there are none.
I'm entertaining the idea of doing this myself. I'm 70 years old with back pain and have only rebuilt two engines in my lifetime.
That said, I'm wondering what could go wrong? For those who have done this or helped, could you please tell me what is involved in removing the coolant, manifolds, intake and exhaust, fuel rail, valve cover, and head bolts to get this head to a machine shop and have it serviced?
I have all the basic tools and a nearby teenager who wants to learn how to "work on cars". If I were to do it I would position the RV in my driveway so I could call a tow truck if necessary.
Tell me I'm crazy if you like, I can take it. I just need to know what I might be getting in to before I stop looking for someone else to do the job.

Thank you, (not so) Classy Class A (any more)
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Not crazy at all - I wish you all the best of luck and success !!!

You'll have a whole cheer-leading section on here rooting you on and hanging on every word if you keep the thread going - lots of us are always interested in threads like this!!

And "good on you" for working with a young person to help instill a passion for working with his/her hands - Mike Rowe would be proud of you !!
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Old 05-05-2021, 11:04 AM   #3
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Where are you located? There is a good reason nobody wants to do it, it isn't easy. I would try to find a medium duty truck repair shop.
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Old 05-05-2021, 11:46 AM   #4
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Where are you located? There is a good reason nobody wants to do it, it isn't easy. I would try to find a medium duty truck repair shop.
Have you tried an automotive school. If in Melbourne fl Sicilia's
Give him a call he might know someone in PA
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Old 05-05-2021, 11:56 AM   #5
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For the OP,
Go to the top of the page and search for a user here by the name of: Waiter21
He also has a Southwind about the same age as yours, same engine, and he has done extensive work on his engine including pulling the heads, manifolds etc, etc.

He also has a very detailed BLOG that shows step by step what he has done but I don't have his URL address for that.

So find—Waiter21—shoot him a PM, get his blog address and you'll have answered 80%-90% of the questions you have.
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Old 05-05-2021, 12:01 PM   #6
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I dont think its crazy if you are comfortable spinning wrenches and have help why not.
Teaching a youngster could be fun if he has interest and is reliable it could be a good fit. I guess I'd have a talk with him to see how committed he would be.
If you had a garage vs just driveway it might be better.

If you decide not to or want to explore other options I know a hydraulic mechanic in Montoursville that might know of a shop that would do it. If you want I can inquire and let you know.
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I have even seen experienced shops get the timing chains on incorrectly and smashed things beyond recognition. I have no problem with someone wanting to learn but this job is not for an unexperienced wannabe youngster.
I can see him getting the engine partially torn apart, saying "I dunno" and walking away.
Then just TRY to get someone to finish the job.
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You might want to focus on the front of the engine. That's where you have to take everything to then remove the timing cover and dig into the timing chains. They are not fun. Once you get through them, THEN you go up top and do the more straightforward unbolting of parts.
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For the OP,
Go to the top of the page and search for a user here by the name of: Waiter21
He also has a Southwind about the same age as yours, same engine, and he has done extensive work on his engine including pulling the heads, manifolds etc, etc.

He also has a very detailed BLOG that shows step by step what he has done but I don't have his URL address for that.

So find—Waiter21—shoot him a PM, get his blog address and you'll have answered 80%-90% of the questions you have.
Lots of good inf0 - Here is his blog address
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:59 PM   #10
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If you have zero compression in one cylinder on a v-10 you probably have some serious issues...

Did you do a leak down test?

You can probably get an old v10 from the junkyard for less than a grand, and have an engine exchange place put it in...
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If you can't find anyone to do the job I am thinking you will NEVER find anyone to complete the job if you start taking it apart and for some reason can't finish. Their concerns would be misplaced ( missing ) parts, nuts, bolts etc. , small parts accidentally dropped into the engine by a teenager and so on and so on. I was a tech H. S. Automotive Instructor and we would not take on a job like that with students. It takes too long and teenagers need to see immediate results for their labors. If they don't then they quickly lose interest.
If you can't confidently do it alone, by yourself then continue to hunt for a professional. As for buying a used engine I would point out that an engine swap in an RV is way more work than pulling a head. Don't go that route unless you already have someone willing to do the swap.
You also haven't said how many miles are on this engine. If high mileage then you might not want to do just a valve job.
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If you run it at all unplug the injector for cyl 10 so you aren't washing the cylinder with raw fuel. You could take the valve cover off on that side and take a look , you might find a bad cam follower/lash adjuster which might not be too difficult to replace or a broken spring etc.

If you replace the engine I'd get either a certified rebuilt with a warranty (make sure it covers Motorhomes) or a Ford crate engine
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Thank you all for the input!! I did find the blog by Waiter21 and it is very helpful for alot of things. I also found a garage that will take a look at it, Cleveland Bros in Turbotville, Pa is almost in my back yard. They say they are very busy and can't even take a look at it till next week. I can't even get a haircut that fast! The service manager was very encouraging, saying that the Class A with a dog house is easier to work on than the Class C with a hood.
This story isn't over yet so I'll keep everyone posted
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Also, a follow up question for Tiffy2000; we drove it home from Texas without doing any disconnecting so the damage is already done. I was also wondering if I should have taken the coil and plug out along with disconnecting the injector. I guess time will tell.
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