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Old 08-10-2013, 12:24 AM   #1
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OBD Diagnostics On Ford F53 V10

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I have been trying to find out if the OBD connection on the 1999 F53 / V10 chassis Is compatable with the ELM connector used on more modern vehicles. and also if this is correct, what software is available (preferably not expensive) to manage the reading of Fault codes etc;

I have been unsuccessful so far. So had anyone had experience of this and can advise?

I thought I found a Thread here some months back, but a search of the forum produces only info on the monitoring of DP`s.

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I have no idea what you are talking about when you refer to an "ELM connector used on more modern vehicles"

The '99 Ford, like everyone else, uses the standard OBDII connector to connect to its OBDI system.

A scanner which registers freeze frame and mode #06 data is a good idea for tracking coil-on-plug failures.
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Old 08-10-2013, 01:29 AM   #3
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Hi Stan.

The Latest OBD outputs to a "canbus" and the "plug" is rectangular (actually a Trapezoid) shape. with 16 pins, not unlike the old RS232 computer fitting to look at but bigger) and is the type fitted to my "Smart" and the Chevy "Orlando". on the Winne; I am told that it is located under the "dash" approximately in the area of the Steering Column. But being in the UK at present, and the R-V being in Houston. it`s not easy to check!!

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Old 08-11-2013, 07:40 AM   #4
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I have never before heard of the RS232 type connector. I presume they were not around for very long. I have a high end scanner that covers the big three, including Ford OBDI & II, but nothing that looks remotely like a RS232 connector.

I happen to have a 1999 Ford F53 V10 (OBDI specs) which is addressed via a standard OBDII connector located on the right side of the steering column at the bottom of the dash. The socket is not immediately evident, because it has a cap over the socket.
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OBD II is an international spec; so I guess it will be the one I am seeking.

The other issue is that of "Software" to run on a Laptop and read codes / fix or delete "errors" etc;. As this is a "gas" (V10) coach I suspect D-P software will not be suitable?. Any one any suggestions?

Thanks Stan for your info.

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OBD II is an international spec; so I guess it will be the one I am seeking.

The other issue is that of "Software" to run on a Laptop and read codes / fix or delete "errors" etc;. As this is a "gas" (V10) coach I suspect D-P software will not be suitable?. Any one any suggestions?

Thanks Stan for your info.

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You should expect any old OBD2 code reader to be able to read and clear codes on this vehicle. For more money, you would also be able to get a "scanner" which could read live data. There are also $200 devices that can provide a dash mounted display of some live data, like a "Scan Gauge II". The ELM connector would be known as the OBD2 connector in the US.

I would not expect CANBUS to be available on this. It wasn't a requirement in the US till about the 2003 - 2004 time frame, and even then I would expect larger vehicles to have had an exemption available. So basically, any old OBD2 scanner should work for you.

What specifically are you looking to do?
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:57 AM   #7
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The "ELM" is a Bluetooth module that plugs into an OBD II port to allow a computer or smart phone to monitor the engine and transmission and use info to dislay temps, pressures, mileage and other info.

ELM Module

I am sure I have seen where it worked on 1999 Ford V10
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My OBDII plug was located on the right side of the steering post, up under the edge of the dashboard cowling. It had a cover over it so you could not see the connections. As for reading the codes, I purchased a device called an "Ultragauge", it works similar to a Scanguage but only costs around $60.00 US.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:39 AM   #9
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Hi

We are returning to the US next week at the start of a 3 Month "Road Trip". The Winnie is currently stored at Houston (Tx). I have this ELM OBD (Bluetooth) reader and some basic software, which reads European codes. What I could do with is some "software" that will readout the codes for the US Ford Chassis. could be useful in setting up and or monitoring the Winne;

I am not particularly interested in "real time" monitoring, on the road. just to be able to see and if neccessary act upon the OBD codes.

I am sure I saw a Thread about 6 months back on here which had some info on this. But I have done some searches and cannot find it! The guy had a similar setup to that which I am seeking and had a link to the software?

Thanks to you all for your advises.

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Are you using a laptop or some kind of reading unit. I use a laptop with an OBD/USB connector. I downloaded software off the net.

Try this.

OBDPros
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There is always Harbor Freight and their combination OBDII/CAN reader for $59:

CAN OBDII Code Reader with Multilingual Menu

No laptop or additional software required.
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Hi

Update. (of Sorts) Down loaded the "trial" ODPros Software (OBD2007). which I managed to link to my ELM data bus. via Bluetooth. (Com41). I ran the software on the "Smart" Car and manged to identify the vehicle and read some Parameters. I also ran it on "her indoors" Chevy Orlando. and got a readout from that. so the connections work.

The next job is to try it on the Winnie; when I get back to Houston.

Thanks for the Info guys.

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Rs232 is the old 24 pinserial port used on computers till nine pin serial ports took over in the nineties and "usb" in the twentyfirst century.
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Rs232 is the old 24 pinserial port used on computers till nine pin serial ports took over in the nineties and "usb" in the twentyfirst century.
Actually the RS-232 connector is either a 25 pin or 9 pin D-subminiature connector. The 24 pin connector is a Centronics connector for a parallel printer.
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