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01-16-2015, 10:30 AM
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Triton V10 Auto Oil Change..
1999 Fleetwood Bounder Triton V10 Auto.
Can a Gearbox oil change be done succesfully on this Rv, without having to be taken to a garage to be done.
Is there a filter inside the pan which is easy to change and how much ATF needs putting back in.
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01-16-2015, 11:10 AM
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The book calls for change at 30,000 miles. It says to change oil and filter. The seal for the pan is a reusable seal. Check the seal for nicks and tears. If it is good, it is safe to reuse. DO NOT change the rear end fluid. It is a lifetime fluid and only needs to be changed if the rear end is submerged in water. The transmission fluid change is not hard. I have a 1999 F53 chassis also. I drain the fluid, measure the amount of fluid removed and install that same amount.
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01-16-2015, 01:43 PM
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The only thing I would add to that is don't take all the pan bolts out at once then try to lower the pan. Loosen all the bolts slightly then remove them starting in a rear corner working a bolt at a time in each direction. The fluid will drain into your pan as the corner is lowered. Once you get a fair amount out it's easier to remove the remaining bolts and lower the pan without spilling fluid all over the place.
There's nothing quite like the feeling of several quarts of ATF running down your shirt sleeve, and soaking into your underwear. Been there done that.
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01-17-2015, 06:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikerdogs
The only thing I would add to that is don't take all the pan bolts out at once then try to lower the pan. Loosen all the bolts slightly then remove them starting in a rear corner working a bolt at a time in each direction. The fluid will drain into your pan as the corner is lowered. Once you get a fair amount out it's easier to remove the remaining bolts and lower the pan without spilling fluid all over the place.
There's nothing quite like the feeling of several quarts of ATF running down your shirt sleeve, and soaking into your underwear. Been there done that.
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Hikerdogs: This advice does not apply to the V10. The transmission has a drain plug in the transmission pan. You simply remove the plug, drain the pan, then remove. a non messy procedure.
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01-17-2015, 06:34 AM
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Oh darn, I like when the fluid gets to my underarm, better if it`s warm.
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01-17-2015, 06:56 AM
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Ford does not recommend changing the filter in the transmission unless you are rebuilding it. It is good for the life of the transmission.
The book says to change the fluid every 42,000 miles.
You do not change the fluid by taking the drain plug out. This will not remove the fluid that is in the Torque Converter, lines and the cooler.
To change the fluid remove the rear transmission cooling line and use the engine to pump the fluid out.
For more information read the attached PDF by Mark Kovalsky Former Ford Automatic Transmission Engineer.
Note the name of the PDF says E4OD but it also applies to your 4R100 transmission.
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01-17-2015, 07:27 AM
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Are you sure all 4R100 transmissions have a drain plug? If I recall correctly the original transmission in our 2001 Adventurer didn't have a drain plug. It only lasted 42,000 miles when something went Boom. Ford replaced it under warranty with the latest version which did have a drain plug in the pan, and an inline filter to the new transmission cooler.
The PDF Subford linked to also mentions some pans had a drain plug while others didn't.
Here's a quote from instruction #2:
a. If you don't have a drain plug, go to step 4 to pump out the pan, preventing an ATF shower! Return here after step 4 and one pass through step 5a.
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01-17-2015, 12:32 PM
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I just went to my Ford paperwork. (the paperwork that I used at the shop) According to Ford Paperwork CVO-A AOC23192-A dated february 2008 Change trans. filter and fluid every at 30,000 miles on f53 models from 1999-2007.
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01-17-2015, 01:25 PM
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I see now Ford has changed it from 42,000 to 30,000.
But it says nothing about the filter inside the transmission only the one in the coolant lines.
But you still need to change the fluid by way of the rear coolant line.
From the Ford Shop Manual:
The transmission fluid should be changed every 30,000 miles
(48,000 km) regardless of normal or special operating
conditions.
Once the vehicle is equipped with the inline transmission
fluid filter, a new filter should be installed every 30,000
miles (48,000 km). A new inline transmission fluid filter
should also be installed during any transmission overhaul,
exchanges, repair or if internal contamination is present.
If the vehicle is equipped with an inline transmission fluid
filter, only the filter must be replaced. If the vehicle is
not equipped with an inline transmission fluid filter, a new
inline transmission fluid filter kit should be installed.
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01-20-2015, 10:20 PM
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My 99 have a drain plug in the trans pan.
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01-21-2015, 01:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chboone
My 99 have a drain plug in the trans pan.
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My 99 F53 also had a drain plug on the pan and a drain plug on the converter. The Ford filter in a C6 I recently rebuilt was basically a strainer therefore I figgered the filter this vehicle was the same so I didn't pull the pan.
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01-26-2015, 03:39 PM
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specialized trans shops and good repair shops have trans fluid exchangers that will remove old fluid and replace it with new. The cost of trans repairs would lead me to let a trained tech do it
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02-02-2015, 10:12 AM
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My 99 have a drain plug in the trans pan.
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02-02-2015, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ga traveler
DO NOT change the rear end fluid. It is a lifetime fluid and only needs to be changed if the rear end is submerged in water.
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Are you sure? I thought I read 50K in the fine print somewhere for RV's.
For tranny filter:
Filter Source: (external filter)
http://www.filtranllc.com/home/docum...rap-030508.pdf
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