V-10 oil filter

[dwaugh10]

I don't know about older V10 models, but on our 2013 chassis, Ford built-in a cooler as part of the oil filter mounting.

David
2013 Vista 27N

[twinboat]

Originally Posted by dwaugh10

I don't know about older V10 models, but on our 2013 chassis, Ford built-in a cooler as part of the oil filter mounting.

David
2013 Vista 27N

Same with my 1999 V10. Oil cooler adaptor mounted above oil filter.

[grumpy0374]

Yeah, our 2012 Lexi also has the itty bitty Ford OE oil cooler.
Just sayin, if you want more cooling, than an aftermarket large oil cooler is the way to go, and not a slightly larger oil filter.
Grumpy

[jergeod]

From the small filter to the large run cooler really how many ounce difference is that.

[Ohio Snake]

As grump alludes to above, use an oil cooler to get better oil cooling capabilities. similar concept to a tranny cooler. The larger capacity of oil needed may allow better efficiency of the oil detergents.
A larger filter may be more efficient for filtration. I doubt a larger filter would allow for better cooling or better lubrication.

[Stuart W]

Having worked on the dealer OEM side dealing with warranty claims, I will only use the OEM oil filter on anything I own (cars, motorcycles and RVs) that is under factory warranty. I would never want to have to defend a claim by the manufacturer that the "wrong" filter was a contributing factor in engine failure. It just cheap insurance for me.

[TeJay]

Stewart W,

Thanks for the OEM side of warranty claims. It's always good to get that type of opinion since you were in the mix of it. The rest of us can only guess what has happened unless we are actually involved in a claim.

When you consider the much longer warranties involved with our vehicles one would have to believe that engine longevity and integrity is a vital part of today's designs.

I believe that most any engine will have sufficient oil, cooling capacity and filtration right from the factory to fulfill the projected warranty mileages. In regards to a motor home they are designed to tow up to a 5,000 lb vehicle. Unless we exceed the speeds, suggested load weights or neglect the oil change requirements we should be OK.

They are mechanical so anything can and may happen. Also consider how we DON'T read about how often the Ford V-10 is breaking??

I began my teaching career in 1971 and watched the industry go through massive changes over those many, many years. Computer controlled engines were introduced industry wide in 1980 and aluminum became the preferred engine material. What a ride that was.

The learning curve for all (technicians, engineers, owners) was steep, difficult and it has never stopped. That came about based on the .gov intervention (CAFE & emissions standards) as well as the foreign competition. The foreign manufacturers had a hands up on fuel efficiency and the use of aluminum. Fuel in Europe has always been much higher.

Twenty five years ago I would not and could not make these following statements. Today the American manufacturers, are for the most part, producing a quality product. They perform very well, last for many more miles are fuel efficient and low in exhaust emissions.

[CLIFFTALL]

I agree. It's like the old Fram oil filter commercial. "Pay me now or pay me later "

Originally Posted by Stuart W

Having worked on the dealer OEM side dealing with warranty claims, I will only use the OEM oil filter on anything I own (cars, motorcycles and RVs) that is under factory warranty. I would never want to have to defend a claim by the manufacturer that the "wrong" filter was a contributing factor in engine failure. It just cheap insurance for me.

[Mekanic]

Originally Posted by homerbw

If your doing your routine oil changes, you gain nothing by going to a larger filter except more expense. I use the oem filter and it is fine.

Originally Posted by harleyjt

Sorry but I have to disagree with that statement. The larger capacity filter allows for more oil in the system which translates to longer lasting oil and overall better lubrication. The oil will run cooler. The other alternative to getting more capacity is a deeper pan. A larger filter is a much easier alternative.

X2 on that. The OEM filter on my jeep is the short version of the FL-1A
I run the 2 quart version that is even larger than the FL-1A. I get the WIX brand at NAPA or Oreillys. (Napa #1773) I change my filters every 3K or so and change the oil when you can't read the info though it on the dipstick. (12K-15K miles)
I also run a Filter Mag on my filters. You can really see the oil is cleaner using this filter changing procedure.

Originally Posted by select55

really now ; what changes that the oil will run cooler??

The oil IS the coolant for the lower half of the engine. (There are NO coolant passages around the Crankshaft and its bearings)
The coolant also doesn't do much to cool the valvetrain other than the lifters on a typical pushrod engine.

[harleyjt]

Originally Posted by Stuart W

Having worked on the dealer OEM side dealing with warranty claims, I will only use the OEM oil filter on anything I own (cars, motorcycles and RVs) that is under factory warranty. I would never want to have to defend a claim by the manufacturer that the "wrong" filter was a contributing factor in engine failure. It just cheap insurance for me.

Same here. OE filters only.

[Ohio Snake]

Originally Posted by Stuart W

Having worked on the dealer OEM side dealing with warranty claims, I will only use the OEM oil filter on anything I own (cars, motorcycles and RVs) that is under factory warranty. I would never want to have to defend a claim by the manufacturer that the "wrong" filter was a contributing factor in engine failure. It just cheap insurance for me.

Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. I use better than OEM oil and filter. Never, ever had an issue with an engine or warranty on any car.

[jergeod]

makes no difference if it's better than OEM the fact is OEM is all they're going to warranty without crying contributing factor.

[Ohio Snake]

Originally Posted by jergeod

makes no difference if it's better than OEM the fact is OEM is all they're going to warranty without crying contributing factor.

Lawsuit waiting to happen.

[harleyjt]

Originally Posted by Ohio Snake

Lawsuit waiting to happen.

May be, but sure seems like a lot of effort and time just to use aftermarket parts when there wouldn't be any question otherwise.