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View Poll Results: To Tune or Not to Tune Your V10?
I like it stock 9 13.43%
Don't see any value added 10 14.93%
Don't want to spend the money 5 7.46%
Tuned for more power 23 34.33%
Tuned for better shifting 45 67.16%
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:27 AM   #43
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You are the fist person I heard of that's not happy with it. I just tuned our coach but won't be able to test it for a few weeks. I didn't buy it for more power or MPGs as I'm happy with how it is. You also have to remember that more power means more gas...usually. I think that if you are looking for more MPGs you can ask for a specific tune that will do that. With that being said, you will probably notice less power, slower throttle response, etc.
This is my same experience with the 5 star tune installed by the prior owner. (Stays in high gear too long). I actually saw my MPG improve by returning to stock. Unfortunately I have an additional item - the tires on my rig are larger diameter than stock as well so this changes the overall gear ratio from 4:10 to about 4:43 (using an online tool) and the speedo is off by about 5 mph @ 60. The tune for this rig that the prior owner installed in 3/2012 from Mike is the standard motorhome towing tune that doesn't appear to account for the tire change that the owner had done prior to the install; It can be customized by Mike to take that into consideration.

Contrary to another post, as I am not the original purchaser of the tune, I'm still out $105 if I want to have a custom tune for this rig. I am understanding as to why this would be as I am wanting something different from the prior owner. I'm hopeful that I will get the parameters dialed in to our needs.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:54 PM   #44
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This is my same experience with the 5 star tune installed by the prior owner. (Stays in high gear too long). I actually saw my MPG improve by returning to stock. Unfortunately I have an additional item - the tires on my rig are larger diameter than stock as well so this changes the overall gear ratio from 4:10 to about 4:43 (using an online tool) and the speedo is off by about 5 mph @ 60. The tune for this rig that the prior owner installed in 3/2012 from Mike is the standard motorhome towing tune that doesn't appear to account for the tire change that the owner had done prior to the install; It can be customized by Mike to take that into consideration.

Contrary to another post, as I am not the original purchaser of the tune, I'm still out $105 if I want to have a custom tune for this rig. I am understanding as to why this would be as I am wanting something different from the prior owner. I'm hopeful that I will get the parameters dialed in to our needs.
A larger tire will give you less mechanical advantage. So with your larger tires you would go from a 4:10 to something like 3:80ish???. You can think of it this way. A larger tire will complete one revolution in a larger distance than a smaller diameter tire. So while you have more overall movement related to drive shaft rotations, this will reduce effective power.
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Old 03-28-2014, 04:57 PM   #45
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This is my same experience with the 5 star tune installed by the prior owner. (Stays in high gear too long). I actually saw my MPG improve by returning to stock. Unfortunately I have an additional item - the tires on my rig are larger diameter than stock as well so this changes the overall gear ratio from 4:10 to about 4:43 (using an online tool) and the speedo is off by about 5 mph @ 60. The tune for this rig that the prior owner installed in 3/2012 from Mike is the standard motorhome towing tune that doesn't appear to account for the tire change that the owner had done prior to the install; It can be customized by Mike to take that into consideration.

Contrary to another post, as I am not the original purchaser of the tune, I'm still out $105 if I want to have a custom tune for this rig. I am understanding as to why this would be as I am wanting something different from the prior owner. I'm hopeful that I will get the parameters dialed in to our needs.
Go through your setup menu. I believe there are settings for rear gear or tire size.



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Thanks Dunner. Unfortunately my version of the SCT device is model 3000 and it says "not supported" when I attempt to reach that part of the menu. I talked with SCT support and they stated that this model is built for loading custom tunes from dealers only and does not let me change those settings. Great thought though!
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Tuner Help Needed

I have a 1999 Monaco on a Ford F53 chassis. I bought a tuner from 5-Star, but it has had no effect. Mike at 5-Star tells me some of these Fords have actual physical chips installed, and the tune will not over ride it. My problem is that I can't find the chip to remove it. Anyone know where it is?
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I have a 1999 Monaco on a Ford F53 chassis. I bought a tuner from 5-Star, but it has had no effect. Mike at 5-Star tells me some of these Fords have actual physical chips installed, and the tune will not over ride it. My problem is that I can't find the chip to remove it. Anyone know where it is?
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The only thing that could be piggy backed is some PCMs have an open cavity in the opposite side of the electrical connector. It is really really rare to see an actual chip installed on these newer style PCMs. You can pull the PCM off the steering column to check.
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I have a 1999 Monaco on a Ford F53 chassis. I bought a tuner from 5-Star, but it has had no effect. Mike at 5-Star tells me some of these Fords have actual physical chips installed, and the tune will not over ride it. My problem is that I can't find the chip to remove it. Anyone know where it is?
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Some chips plug in to the OBDll port under your dash near the steering wheel (I suspect yours isn't there). Others plug in-line at your PCM, not sure where your main PCM is but mine can be seen from opening the hood above the wheel well.
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I had some issues on the way down to FL from OH. The engine pulsated at certain RPM and speed ranges. Mike sent me a new tune, but I could not upload it to the tuner due to a missing cable. I returned it to stock and it drove pretty good, but that crazy two gear downshift was back. I also lost on average about .5 to 1 MPGs. Not sure if it's the driving style or if the tune actually saves the MPGs, but so far it seems it does.
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What's a "TUNER"

As a former full timing Mtn. Aire then Essex jockey we (wife and I) pchd. a place in The Villages, (Florida) and recently downsized to 2014 Bay Star gasser with the Triton V10 with a Banks power unit. We just couldn't give up the great life of RV'ing cold turkey. Anyway, just read this thread about "TUNERS" for the V10 and since you guys taught me long ago that the only dumb question is the question NOT asked, I need to ask:

WHAT DA HECK IS A "TUNER" FOR THE V10, AND WHAT IS IT'S PURPOSE??

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As a former full timing Mtn. Aire then Essex jockey we (wife and I) pchd. a place in The Villages, (Florida) and recently downsized to 2014 Bay Star gasser with the Triton V10 with a Banks power unit. We just couldn't give up the great life of RV'ing cold turkey. Anyway, just read this thread about "TUNERS" for the V10 and since you guys taught me long ago that the only dumb question is the question NOT asked, I need to ask:

WHAT DA HECK IS A "TUNER" FOR THE V10, AND WHAT IS IT'S PURPOSE??

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Look here: Got a V10 RV » 5 Star Tuning

Some get it for more power/torque, etc. I didn't need more power, but did not like how it shifted under certain conditions. It's basically a way to fine tune your motor/tranny.
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As a former full timing Mtn. Aire then Essex jockey we (wife and I) pchd. a place in The Villages, (Florida) and recently downsized to 2014 Bay Star gasser with the Triton V10 with a Banks power unit. We just couldn't give up the great life of RV'ing cold turkey. Anyway, just read this thread about "TUNERS" for the V10 and since you guys taught me long ago that the only dumb question is the question NOT asked, I need to ask:

WHAT DA HECK IS A "TUNER" FOR THE V10, AND WHAT IS IT'S PURPOSE??

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The tuner gives more torque down low , it increases the throttle response. It adjusts the shifting so there is no more slamming down 2 gears for a slight incline.
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Thanks for "Tuner" info

al2ride and IdahoSRT10:

Hey, thanks for comeback regarding my question about the V10 Tuner.

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I used the 5STAR RV tune for my 2008 Fleetwood Terra V-10. Incredible difference in power and shifting. It did exactly what SCT said it would. Last month I had to De-tune back to stock for smog compliance in California. That is the only downside I see. Not a big chore, only took a few minutes but i'm paranoid about possibly messing up something during the process…..

Everything went as planned. Glad I only have to do it every few years.
Next time I'm going to try to get the smog guy to check it with the tune in place and see if it passes..

If anybody has tried that I'd be interested in hearing your results.

Highly recommended tune!
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