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01-05-2022, 06:02 AM
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1999 American Tradition front ride height valve
When I fire up my coach everything works fine The airbags fill up and the coach is level. When I am stationary the front and rear pressures are normal and at the same pressure. When I shut the coach off the front will start to drop within minutes and looks like a hotrod after about 10 minutes. The back holds air pressure for a good little bit before it finally starts to drop.
When I drive the coach the front air pressure guage bounces up and down about 10 lbs of pressure while I am driving. It stops the boucing when I stop driving. I am pretty sure the front ride height valve is the culprit of all this.
I have not gone under the coach to verify a leak but if it's a fairly inexpensive part I want to change it out for piece of mind. I would hate to take my family to the beach and the front not air up. Does anyone know what the part number is and where I can get a replacement?
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2005 Mini Cooper Cabrio S- Toad
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01-05-2022, 06:17 AM
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I did a search for 1999 fleetwood air ride valve and this came up. Would this be a good replacemant? https://www.amazon.com/Haldex-900540...01925094&psc=1
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2005 Mini Cooper Cabrio S- Toad
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01-06-2022, 05:18 PM
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Yep, that's a front one. There's 2, one on each side. .....be smart to replace both front and the rear one. I mean they all went the same places!
A real buzz kill when one fails on the road.
I just recently replaced all 3 of mine.
Take a look:
https://www.irv2.com/forums/f25/eagle-air-leveling-valve-545812.html
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01-07-2022, 06:00 AM
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I rolled under the chassis yesterday and I took a picture of the valve. I can't seem to find a matching or close to it valve. Anyone know where I can get the replacement?
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2005 Mini Cooper Cabrio S- Toad
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01-07-2022, 06:30 AM
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Yours is made by Haldex. The ones you posted will work. If you're concerned about them looking slightly different, you can call Spartan and see if they list an exact match, but I suspect they have changed to the ones in the link anyway.
Nothing really specific about how these work anyway, they have a "Neutral" zone were they do not add or exhaust air to the bags. You set your ride height @ 16 1/8" measuring from the center to center of the shock bolts. Adjust the height adjuster to it's neutral position and done. The adjustable mounting bracket on the ones in the link above should allow mounting pretty easy.
Just make sure and use the correct orientation (L or R).
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01-07-2022, 07:26 AM
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I emailed Spartin this morning and told them what I was looking for and if they had a part or part number. I found a post and was not real hopefull on getting any help from Spartin.
Worst case I'll order one and see if I can get it to work.
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01-07-2022, 07:38 AM
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I agree, the one in your Amazon pic will work. You'll need to replace the rod that controls it (that's the piece with the hose clamp around it) the one for the new valve looks to be a little longer.
But either way you should be able to fab something up
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01-07-2022, 10:05 AM
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Here's a better picture using the valve in your Amazon link
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01-07-2022, 11:24 AM
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I got the following response from Spartin:
Part number on the height control valve kit is 8295. We have them in stock and they run $258.41. It comes with the valve and linkage.
Thats a huge difference in price between the one on Amazon and them. I can buy the valve and a new rod for way less than Spartin.
Thanks for the help, I have a better feeling about getting it fixed correctly.
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2005 Mini Cooper Cabrio S- Toad
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01-07-2022, 12:47 PM
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Does your chassis have one on each side of front?
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01-08-2022, 05:32 AM
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I don't know yet. I got side tracked after work yesterday but I am going to look today.
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01-24-2022, 09:30 AM
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I also have a 1999 American Tradition and am going to replace the rear air bags and ride height valve. I visited the Spartan display Saturday at Quartzsite and they gave me part number H00500XA for the rear valve.
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01-30-2022, 04:04 PM
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1999 American Tradition
Wondering if you replaced the valve and if it fixed your problem?
We bought our 99 Tradition in fall of 2018. It too would drop in front within minutes of shutting it off. I discovered the main culprit was the junction block on the forward wall above generator. The o-rings were old and hard and it was leaking air out of there very quickly.
I called Spartan and they wanted a $1,000 for the part. I couldn’t afford that so I removed the block, and took apart the push to connect fittings, ordered new o-rings, put it back together and it has been doing great since!
But I have had other issues too. Around that same time, the coach started refusing to air up the front bags. I had 110+ psi in both tanks. Turned out that the valve between frame rails near the forward air tank was not operating to let the air go to the ride height valves. Replaced that and it’s been working since. Until this past Friday. Now it’s not airing up again. All the air pressure I could want in the tanks…but not going to the valves.
Fortunately, I still had the parts to air it up manually in order to get it home from Prescott. Now I need to get it scheduled somewhere to troubleshoot.
What I am considering doing…tell me I’m stupid if I am…but I am going to get a two way valve and mount it in the forward left bay. I will plumb the air line from ride height valve to this two way valve, then back to the air bag. The second side of valve will have a schraeder valve plumbed in. I’m going to do this for all three ride height valves so in the future, when this happens again, I can switch that two way valve to manual side, and air up the bags so I can get home…WITHOUT climbing under the coach.
I called so many places Friday trying to get someone that could help me and NOONE could. They either never returned my call, or they said they don’t do that type of work. I called RV shops, big truck repair shops, mobile mechanics. No one could help me. I felt really out of luck. Then I remembered I had those parts and was able to use the leveling jacks to get it high enough to reach the bags. VERY apprehensive about doing it that way but had no choice. If my two way valve idea works, I will never be in that situation again.
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09-20-2022, 07:55 AM
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The motorhome got put on the back burner for a while as I was working on some other projects. My airbags air up but the fronts go down quickly after I shut it off. I checked for leaks at the manifold on the wall and didn't hear any leaks but I didn't check it with soapy water either. I just got done going over the roof and doing a reseal job. I put on 2 new vent covers too.
2 new level valves and a new dryer filter and hopefully that will get it right.
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