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03-07-2014, 01:43 PM
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More than likely your 10,000# receiver is a class 4...........
Class I Hitches
This is the lightest type of trailer hitch. A Class 1 trailer hitch can handle a gross trailer weight (GTW) of up to 2,000 lbs., and a maximum tongue weight of 200 lbs. The hitch may be a simple drawbar-type hitch or step bumper-type hitch. Other hitches may have a crossbar with a small one-inch or 1-1/2-inch square receiver, or a small 2-inch by 5/8-inch receiver. This type of hitch is often used on smaller cars, smaller pickups and smaller vans (minivans) for bicycle racks, camping racks, and light-duty towing. We sell many fine class 1 hitches as well as an economical, easy to install (do-it-yourself) Class 1 trailer hitch.
Class II Hitches
Class II hitches are for loads of up to 3,500 lbs. GTW and 300 lbs. tongue weight such as a small boat trailer, snowmobile trailer, motorcycle trailer or camper. This type of trailer hitch is appropriate for larger cars, full-size vans, full-size pickups and SUVs. Many of our class II hitches are designed specifically for your vehicle, and we have some universal class II trailer hitches as well.
Class III Hitches
Class III hitches can handle up to 5,000 lbs. GTW and 500 lbs. tongue weight. This type of hitch generally has a 2-inch rectangular receiver and is considered the "standard" type of hitch for general towing. Most of our class III hitches are designed specifically for your vehicle. There are also some universal-fit class III trailer hitches available.
Class IV Hitches
Class IV hitches are for up to 10,000 lbs. GTW and 1,000 to 1,200 lbs. of tongue weight. This type of hitch is usually a weight-distributing hitch. We carry many fine class IV hitches that are designed specifically for your vehicle.
Class V Hitches
Class V hitches are for extra heavy loads greater than 10,000 lbs. GTW and more than 1,200 lbs. tongue weight. This type of hitch is usually a weight-distributing hitch. This type of hitch may have up to a 2-1/2 inch receiver with a 3/4-inch pinhole. Typical uses might be to tow a car trailer, horse trailer or unusually large boat or camper.
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03-07-2014, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse89
More than likely your 10,000# receiver is a class 4...........
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From my guide Standard on your motorhome is a class five, 10,000 pound car towing hitch.
But heck, unless I was looking at a big motor cycle carrier, it probably doesn't make any difference even if I went with a trailer provided it was not crazy heavy on the hitch.
GOOD INFO!
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03-07-2014, 01:57 PM
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Want more toy's with us....
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Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
From my guide Standard on your motorhome is a class five, 10,000 pound car towing hitch.
But heck, unless I was looking at a big motor cycle carrier, it probably doesn't make any difference even if I went with a trailer provided it was not crazy heavy on the hitch.
GOOD INFO!
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As maybe posted earlier Don, we want to be able to take our Harley's and our Jeep JK and maybe a golf cart, we are always torn about which to take with us on vacation, the new enclosed trailer will put a end to those desicisions........Take it all......
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03-07-2014, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse89
As maybe posted earlier Don, we want to be able to take our Harley's and our Jeep JK and maybe a golf cart, we are always torn about which to take with us on vacation, the new enclosed trailer will put a end to those desicisions........Take it all......
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SWEEEEEET! Do you have an idea of the kind of tongue weight you will be seeing? When I grow up, I might want one.
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03-07-2014, 02:12 PM
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You're going the wrong way with the trailer. Everyone seems to go long, you need to go UP! If I ever get to the point where I wanted an enclosed trailer (and had the coach to pull it) I would consider this, a stacker:
You're already punching a huge hole in the air, so having a taller trailer should make no difference, and being 4~6' shorter will make it much easier to deal with. Might even keep you legal!
But in all fairness, you have a really nice looking trailer.
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03-07-2014, 02:13 PM
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Have to figure this out......
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No Don, I am thinking I am going to have to wait till I load the bikes in the front and the JK in the rear, weigh the tongue, and move the JK one way or another till I get the right tongue weight based on the GTWR. Then I will mark the interior walls - JK w/Harley's , and that will be its parking spot with the bikes, and then unload the bikes put the JK back in and find out where it needs to be in the trailer without the bikes, adjust where it is at to achieve the proper tongue weight, and then re-mark the interior wall so I know where to park it without the bikes. This is my intended plan right now, maybe I will learn more about loading and adjusting things on here before I receive the new trailer. The tounge weight of the trailer empty is 310# , I am guessing around 800# maybe......
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03-07-2014, 02:23 PM
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Not ready for a stacker....
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Originally Posted by PushedAround
You're going the wrong way with the trailer. Everyone seems to go long, you need to go UP! If I ever get to the point where I wanted an enclosed trailer (and had the coach to pull it) I would consider this, a stacker:
You're already punching a huge hole in the air, so having a taller trailer should make no difference, and being 4~6' shorter will make it much easier to deal with. Might even keep you legal!
But in all fairness, you have a really nice looking trailer.
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I did a lot of research on the stacker trailers, that is what I thought I wanted in the beggining.........not so much in this time in my life yet.....
1. I don't have the Coach to pull the weight of a stacker w/ contents
2. A stacker is over double the cost.......(low 20's - over 40k!)
3. If my Harley's are on top, Have to move whats under them to get them out.......
I was going to buy one, but after these thoughts of mine, I went the other way......
1. Can get the bikes out and in without moving the JK
2. Can get the JK out without moving the Harley's........
3. The trailer when using it is the garage for the bikes, after riding them, back in they go for the night.......and if I never unloaded the JK , no problem.
These are just my thought on the 2 different trailers and what seems to work for me right now........
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03-07-2014, 02:27 PM
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All good points. I would probably load the top of one with junk, and save the bottom for the car, so my needs are a little different. But for now I only have the ability to pull a toad, so that's what it is.
What are you going to weigh your trailer with? I saw that Pennsy plate, am near Philly and have a tongue scale.
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03-07-2014, 02:32 PM
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Homemade scale......
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Originally Posted by PushedAround
All good points. I would probably load the top of one with junk, and save the bottom for the car, so my needs are a little different. But for now I only have the ability to pull a toad, so that's what it is.
What are you going to weigh your trailer with? I saw that Pennsy plate, am near Philly and have a tongue scale.
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Just this I suppose.....
I am in the other corner from you,(NW) in Warren......
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03-07-2014, 03:28 PM
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That will do it, but I would use at least a 5' span on the scale side (or cut the fulcrum side down to 6") in order to give you a 1500 lb range. You never know how heavy that tongue may get. My Sherline scale goes to 2K lbs.
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03-08-2014, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PushedAround
That will do it, but I would use at least a 5' span on the scale side (or cut the fulcrum side down to 6") in order to give you a 1500 lb range. You never know how heavy that tongue may get. My Sherline scale goes to 2K lbs.
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Will do Larry, thanks for the info.
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03-08-2014, 01:37 PM
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More photo's of the project.....
Some more photo's of the fab job.....going well
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03-12-2014, 01:13 PM
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Hitch build progress....
Just some more photo's of the hitch build......
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03-12-2014, 02:20 PM
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So the next important question is:
How are you painting it, rattle can or powder coat?
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