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Old 06-21-2021, 04:25 AM   #1
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Berkshire length and weight

I am looking to buy a 2012 Berkshire 390BH-60.
How acurate are the measurements given online? We have an absolute max, no tolerance lenght requirement of 39 feet 4.44 inches/39.37feet. Excluding ladder.

Also, how is the weights on this coach? It will be weighed, both axels seperatly.
I read some posts on upgrades done, and that the MH was overweight even unloaded. Do they replace the yellow sticker and other documentation, so it is clear what weights the manufacturer approve, and are they actually acurate and within limits when measured?

The reason for beeing so specific is that I am bringing it to Europe. If not approved, I will have the worlds most expensive stationary dog-house.
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here’s your chassis specs.

https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...-Berkshire.pdf

I would agree that 10,400 and 19,000 front and rear axles are a bit light for a 40’ coach, but given this info the next step is to weight the coach front and rear, or four corners if possible (don’t rely on brochure specs), and see if it’s overweight or not, and if not if it has any net cargo carrying capacity after carrying its own weight.

According to this (may or may not be accurate but it’s what’s available) it has a dry weight of almost 28,000, so that would mean it can’t even carry full tanks and an average driver without being overweight.

https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2012-...-390bh-tr11328

Also seems like it would be somewhat painfully underpowered with a 360/800. My 34’ is barley tolerable with that engine. Worse if it’s the 340/660 and Allison 2500, which apparently it could be.

Edit - found the brochure:
https://library.rvusa.com/brochure/12_Berkshire_A.pdf

I can’t imagine shipping one of these anywhere. There just isn’t enough value to begin with.
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hereís your chassis specs.

https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...-Berkshire.pdf

I would agree that 10,400 and 19,000 front and rear axles are a bit light for a 40í coach, but given this info the next step is to weight the coach front and rear, or four corners if possible (donít rely on brochure specs), and see if itís overweight or not, and if not if it has any net cargo carrying capacity after carrying its own weight.

According to this (may or may not be accurate but itís whatís available) it has a dry weight of almost 28,000, so that would mean it canít even carry full tanks and an average driver without being overweight.

https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2012-...-390bh-tr11328

Also seems like it would be somewhat painfully underpowered with a 360/800. My 34í is barley tolerable with that engine. Worse if itís the 340/660 and Allison 2500, which apparently it could be.

Edit - found the brochure:
https://library.rvusa.com/brochure/12_Berkshire_A.pdf

I canít imagine shipping one of these anywhere. There just isnít enough value to begin with.
Thank you for a thorough reply!

It's quite a time consuming task to find the "perfect" MH, even if I am set on a specific model and year. So if the weight issue is universal, and pretty much all Berkshires are overweight, or close, then I need to be looking at other models. Since I don't have one in my possession, it's impossible for me to actually weigh one. Of course I can weigh it if I'm ready to close a deal on a specific unit, but I really don't want to waste all this time if this is a universal problem.

Would you think it is underpowered even without towing, and with the 360hp engine? As to shipping, it should be around 3500$. And it seems like the Berkshire is the most "bang for the buck", when I need bunks, and no more than 39.4 feet lenght?
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I can see that needing bunks in that size range puts you in a narrow market. I never look at models with bunks so I have little experience there.

I find that I have to be quite strategic driving my 30,000lb 360hp Ventana if there are any hills involved, even if not towing. In fact towing 4,000lbs makes little difference. It’s very slow starting out and a I have to downshift before hitting a grade to maintain speed and that only works on the minor grades. If I wait until the transmission downshifts automatically it’s too late. Anything over 4-5 % is going to slow me down enough to shift down to 4th or even 3rd st times.

I had bad luck with a light weight Forest River travel trailer, and was disappointed with what they did to the Dynamax brand so I may be a bit biased. But considering that this Berkshire is 5’ (15%) longer than mine and has a GVWR that is 6000lbs (17%) less than mine, tells me they had to cut a lot of corners to produce that coach.

It probably is a lot of coach for the money and might hold up just fine, but I’d be wary of the Forest River propensity to cut corners and the obviously under-spec’d chassis may be just the tip of the ice berg.

Hopefully some Berkshire owners will weigh in with their experiences.
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