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Mr Nuck · 03-05-2018, 05:14 PM

I was just thinking that I don't recall seeing any outlets in the motorhomes I was looking at over the weekend. I even went back to the pictures I took and didn't notice any in the pics... where do they hide them??? Are they up under the cabinets where a 6'3 feller woul d nt see them?

ej1144 · 03-05-2018, 05:19 PM

The do put them under cabinetry
In the kitchen area sometimes side of sink cabinet bathroom normal on wall . really depends on the build.

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Mr Nuck · 03-05-2018, 05:25 PM

I was hoping that they were under the cabs. ..did see the one in the bath. Thanks for the response.

okmunky · 03-05-2018, 08:03 PM

My MoHo has 3 AC outlets on the underside of the upper cabinets, a GFCI next to the bathroom sink plus 2 on walls where TVs can be plugged in. The outdoor AC outlet is also a GFCI.

**Spdracr39** · 03-06-2018, 05:26 AM

The tend to place them under the cabinets which is 1 inch higher than your coffee maker cord will reach.

Waiter21 · 03-06-2018, 05:47 AM

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The tend to place them under the cabinets which is 1 inch higher than your coffee maker cord will reach.

^^ Exactly....

Hit_the_Rhod · 03-06-2018, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spdracr39

The tend to place them under the cabinets which is 1 inch higher than your coffee maker cord will reach.

Ain't THAT the truth!

Gotitmade · 03-28-2018, 10:28 AM

My MOHO has one in the dash passenger side, one on the side of the kitchen sink cabinet and one or two others in the forward/kitchen area. They are all daisy chained together and controlled by the one in the bath sink area which is a GFCI outlet. All tested non functional except the GFCI which tested good, but was actually also bad. IT had 120V there, but would not let the voltage past it.Fryed inside. Replaced the GFCI outlet and they all work.

MisterT · 03-28-2018, 01:22 PM

i took us two or three days to realize where the main lights for the living room were - under the entry upper cabinets, but cannot be seen when you walk in the door - besides, who comes from a house and thinks that they should be looking under the underside of a cabinet for a light switcH! An outlet was right next to it, too - what a bonus!

as an added 'bonus'... I delivered a new 1/2million dollar coach from the factory to a dealer last year - realized when I stopped for the night that there was some light coming from the very rear closet - could not, not, not find the switch for it, ever! The light is still on I guess : / oh well.

and, many coaches are now being supplied with 'wireless' type wall switch systems, where there is really no 'wiring' behind the panel or buttons - those can be placed almost anywhere, but they have drawbacks, too, as many folks don't like that up to 5 or 6 items are controlled by the same small panel, and you might touch the wrong one in the middle of the night!

I do understand, though, after owning a coach for several years, that manufacturers try to use an area that has a 'cavity' behind it to hide the wiring for switches and outlets - the outside walls in coaches don't have any cavity - but the cabinets and some interior walls do. I think the only outlet we have that is not 'within' an interior wall or cabinet is the GFCI main outlet on the bathroom wall. We have at least 6 light switches under cabinets, never seen by human eyes : ) I guess the burglers won't be able to see what they're lookin' for : )

okmunky · 03-28-2018, 04:43 PM

Mister T, I bet that 500K coach had a closet light that came on automtically when the door was opened, but it wasn’t properly installed or adjusted so it would turn off when the door closed.

My brother bought a high priced Toy Hauler last Fall and the list of things that needed work was LONG. That's sad.

MisterT · 03-29-2018, 06:22 AM

agreed, and I also found that no matter the 'name' on the front of the coach, they ALL had issues from the moment they left the factory ------ oh, snap!

docj · 03-29-2018, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Nuck

I was just thinking that I don't recall seeing any outlets in the motorhomes I was looking at over the weekend.

IMHO MH manufacturers these days reduce their costs by reducing the amount of 120V circuitry in their coaches, which I think is a shame. Our vintage Beaver was wired with 120V as the primary electricity source. There are four outlets in the living room on both sides, another 3 on the kitchen counters, not counting ones for the microwave and the spark-assist for the cooktop. There are another two in the bathroom and vanity area and four in the bedroom. In addition to outlets, the primary lighting source are 120V residential wall fixtures which provide far more lumen output than do 12V fixtures (especially now that they've all be updated to LEDs.) To support all this, the MH was delivered with a 2kW inverter which has now been updated to a 2.8kW pure sine wave inverter.

I'm citing all this to demonstrate that providing lots of 120V power isn't impossible, it just requires a different mind-set than appears to be in vogue today.

MisterT · 03-31-2018, 06:27 AM

yes, and I think also that some engineers have decided that the way to 'limit' folks from using 'too much' 120v power when on the inverter is to 'limit' the number of OUTLETS!... crazy.
The number of outlets for most folks has no bearing on 'how much' electricity they try to use, it just creates havoc by pushing them to use multiple outlets adapters and/or extension cords.

If I have a single available outlet, but need to power 4 items, that single outlet will be where they all get plugged in - the manufacturer providing 4 outlets does not make me use more 'lectricty, it just adds convenience, as it should, it changes nothing.

I'm accustomed to having any and all 120v outlets on my inverter and usable anytime and anywhere I wish, but when I deliver new coaches from the factory which have a residential fridge but only a 1,000w inverter and NO other outlets on the inverter, it really aggravates me. It makes me think that the engineers are the 'don't use too much electricity on this small inverter' gods. Ridiculous. Having another designated outlet on the inverter does nothing but provide a more convenient experience for the owner.

Are they worried that we somehow can't 'control' our usage? Bunk.

on the 'other hand'.... I can also see that they are somewhat 'limited' by the space where they can conveniently mount these outlets - outside walls don't really provide enough depth, so cabinets become the place of choice.