TST TPMS Systems

[TST Systems]

Originally Posted by Flossy

Dan, after continually fighting with my inner dually valve stem I think I would like to look at using the crossfire system. It seems that would eliminate the problem of the hard to reach sensor on the inner wheel.

What are your thoughts/experiences with crossfire when utilized with the TST system? Do you only use a single sensor for each pair of duallies? I currently have the six sensor system.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

David Sellman

We have several customers that are using the Crossfire system in conjunction with our own system.

The results have been good.

I do not have any direct, personal experience with the crossfire system, so I am not a competent resource in regards to performance or overall satisfaction regarding the Crossfire system.

I can only confidiently report that our system will work with it and perform well.

Thank You!

Dan

[Always-RVing]

Originally Posted by TST Systems

Pressure Pro has done much to make our systems look good... I am sorry you are having such trouble with your system.

We do offer trade in credits for Pressure Pro systems..

Please feel free to give us a call.

Thank you!

Dan Covington
www.tsttruck.com
(770) 889-9102

Dan is there a Pressure Pro Upgrade monitor? If one comes out, will be there be an exchange or upgrade price? I really like the monitor's image of the RV, it's the menu system that is so frustrating.

Here is the reason and this is from real world consumer use.

If you have not used the menu system for a few months, there is no way to remember the button hold down time and drilling down steps required for each function (i.e scan reads, add, remove, high pressure variable change, etc etc). Gotta go find the booklet again. Initial document information and setup is no problem. It's "What did I do 6 mos ago" and "How" is the issue.

Pressure Pro is a great TPMS, it only needs some user friendly improvements.

(1) Button (lighted) to enable/disable cold morning low pressure alarm override or enable/disable morning low variable for 10%, 20% 30%.
(2) Immediate Tire Pressure and Tire Temp (User Selectable Centigrade/Fahrenheit and not some number after-thought conversion) on the Display. Can you tell me off the top of your head what a temp reading of #5 is in Centigrade and what that is in Fahrenheit?
(3) Customer Quick View and Adjustment is paramount when on the road. I hated the other day on-the-road when a high temp alarm went off. I pulled over at the next rest stop. Outside temp was over a hundred. I could not remember how to silence the alarm. It was driving us nuts. I pulled out the booklet and found the method to mute the alarm and increase the high temp setting after calculating the current temp. It was only a couple degrees higher than the variable setting. I increased the setting to the next one up, kept an eye on the temps and no more problems. What a nightmare.
(4) I don't have an answer for this, but the Radio Frequency between the monitor and sensors is not adjustable. Monitor side would be easy, sensors would not.
(5) While traveling on the road, I need instant readings (Position, Pressure, Temp, easy selectable, LCD Menu along with the iconic RV display). While stationary, I need a way to easily adjust tire pressure without redefining base setting, unlocking lock nut and unscrewing the sensor which if not very carefully, you'll loosen the extender valves. Now possibly a much bigger problem.


There is room for improvement for all Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems.

[mythplaced]

Batman...

Dan is TST Systems, not pressure pro

[edj]

Originally Posted by Batman_777

Dan is there a Pressure Pro Upgrade monitor? If one comes out, will be there be an exchange or upgrade price? I really like the monitor's image of the RV, it's the menu system that is so frustrating.

Perhaps you should take TST up on their upgrade offer for a new TST TPMS system.

[Always-RVing]

Oppss.... Sorry... I thought Pressure Pro jumped in there for a comment.

I already have $500 invested in the Pressure Pro TPMS.

But.... Just how much would an exhange replacement for a TST monitor and 6 sensors cost?

[Romeo]

Dan,

During one of our phone conversations you mentioned that there was a vendor that may have a dash mount that would fit the "orginal" TST TPMS display unit. I have lost track of the name and would like to check with them in hopes that I can find a mount that fits.

I would suspect that I am not the only one that could use a dash mount.

Ron

[Romeo]

Batman,

Ah, Just post the Pressure Pro on CraigsList and get a TST system.

[bdaball]

Originally Posted by Flossy

Dan, after continually fighting with my inner dually valve stem I think I would like to look at using the crossfire system. It seems that would eliminate the problem of the hard to reach sensor on the inner wheel.

What are your thoughts/experiences with crossfire when utilized with the TST system? Do you only use a single sensor for each pair of duallies? I currently have the six sensor system.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

David Sellman

I have used the dually stems along with TST for some time now. Never a problem with either.

[Theberrys]

Originally Posted by TST Systems

Sometimes the inner valve core can be too tight and it will not let the shrader valve fully depress which is why you are seeing an inaccurate or low sensor read.

They do sell small wrenches that are designed to loosen the valve core slightly which will allow your sensors to again function normally.

This is a fairly easy adjustment, and if you do not wish to do this yourself, your tire dealer can do it for you.

Basically, we are talking about a couple of milimeters of needed space.

Once you make this adjustment, your system will work correctly again.

If you need additional assistace regarding your valve stems, we have a very good distributor who sells both our systems and valve stems, extenders, etc.

You may reach him at (714) 749-7560. His name is Jerry Lihou with Always Shiny Wheels and RV.

He is an excellent resource for all things valve stem and extender related.

Thank you!

Dan Covington
www.tsttruck.com
(770) 889-9102

Thanks Dan

I bought a tool when I got the extenders from Pacific Dualies because a couple of the valves were loose. I guess I made real sure they were tight.

Now I can move on to the rear tires.

Dick

[Always-RVing]

This Vendor category has got to be one of the most informative I have seen on iRV2.

Having the owner respond directly is so valuable. This will help sales and support hit the ceiling for TST. Well, it will certainly help..

Thank you Dan

[Phaetonator]

I've recently installed one of your systems on my MH. I'm having a proglem with one of the sensors reading lower than the rest. Today when I went into the MH the alarm was blinking saying the tire pressure was at 50 psi. When I checked the pressure manually it was actually at 96 psi. This is after I just set the air pressure yesterday and the reading was reading normal. Today after I checked the pressure and after reinstalling the sensor it read near the reading (`2 psi lower) than the rest. I didn't loose much air when reinstalling the sensor. I do not have valve extenders and had new metal vavles installed during the recent new tire installation prior to installing the system.

I've also noticed that all sensors read about 2 psi lower than my gage, so either my gage is off 2 psi or the sensors are off. Not sure what accuracy you spec on the sensors but 2 psi on the gage is within 2% at 100 psi which is probably the best I can expect for a standard truck tire gage.

[DriVer]

Originally Posted by Phaetonator

I've also noticed that all sensors read about 2 psi lower than my gage, so either my gage is off 2 psi or the sensors are off. Not sure what accuracy you spec on the sensors but 2 psi on the gage is within 2% at 100 psi which is probably the best I can expect for a standard truck tire gage.

Dan Covington will be here live and in color on Wednesday evening at 9:009PM EST in our Technical Chat Room. You can ask him that question directly but I expect he may answer this post tomorrow if he has the time.

[DriVer]

The TST Chat is in session! Right now, 9:07 pm

[ziggywiggy]

This has been my experience with two Truck System Technologies systems, maybe yours will be different, but I have bought two systems and was not happy with either. Here it is:

I purchased my first system, the TM-510RV, through their website for $499.00 on November 9, 2009. Upon opening the package I noticed that in the clear holder the parts come in the notches to lift the sensors are too small to reach into unless you are a ten year old girl.

Bad design.

I installed the system and everything appeared to work normally until I hit the road and actually used the system. Negative, on a bright day you cannot see the display. The system does not give an option of manually turning on the back light.

Bad design.

So, I intentionally set some parameters low so that I could see how the system actually alarms in a real situation. Driving down the road with the radio on, having a conversation, neither I nor my companion can hear the alarm.

Bad design.

Not loud enough. Also, unless I am driving at night, the red indicator/alarm light is so dim, I will not notice it. So, I had this device, which is supposed to help save my family’s life, and I cannot see or hear any alarm going off. Bad design. I am sure that someone sitting in corporate offices making this can see the alarm light and can hear the alarm but put that same system out on the road in a real situation, with bright sun light, road noise, radio, wind noise, and human conversations and it is absolutely worthless in the alarm mode.

OK, I figure I can tolerate is since it is the best they have to offer. I’m not happy with it but I can try to tolerate it. Now, in our day-to-day travels, I notice that there is never a time that all the sensors are all working at the same time. One sensor works fine one day, quits the next day. It will start working the following day, and then another quits. After spending weeks trying to figure out what is going on, I call customer service and the lady says, “Yes, we have a badly designed sensor. Let me send you the new design.”

She sends the newly designed sensors and they work fine. I still have the issue of not being able to see the display in bright sunlight, not being able to hear the alarm, and not being able to see the little tiny pinhead alarm light in daylight.

On August 6 of this year, just a couple of days ago, I attended a Monaco rally in Salem, Oregon and I meet one of your sales reps. I explain my dissatisfaction with your system to him. In response, he says, “Oh, we’ve sold hundreds of these.” I replied, “That doesn’t mean they work.”

He did not say, “Yes, I understand, that’s why they came out with this brand new system, with a much louder alarm and a much brighter red alarm light.” He continued to insist that the product worked great and do what salespeople do: Deny, deny, and deny that anything is wrong with their product. The point being that if the audio alarm and visual alarms were not deficient to begin with you wouldn’t have had to create a new product. Obviously the first design was deficient.

He continued to insist that the product was fine but then, strangely, shows me the updated monitor, which has a little louder alarm, and a red alarm light that is twice as bright as mine. Being the good sales rep that he is, he offers to exchange my old monitor for his new (used) display monitor, which gives me a little bit louder alarm and a little bit brighter light that hopefully will allow me to hear and see an alarm situation a little better while actually traveling down the road with all the associated noises and in bright sunlight.

As I am looking at the other products Jerry handles, I hear a loud alarm go off from 10-12 feet away!!!!! I asked him what that is, and he says that it is their new system that has only been out a few months. OK, wait, he knows I have an issue with the alarm and light and merely offers a his display model when there is a BRAND NEW SYSTEM WITH A MUCH LOUDER ALARM AND MUCH BRIGHTER LIGHT? (Come to find out, it wouldn’t matter anyway.)

I asked him to show it to me and I see that it has a large visible alarm speaker and a very bright alarm red light, which is the way the system should have been designed to begin with. I asked him if he could give me any sort of trade-in on my old system for this new system which has only been out a few months. He says that he can’t but he will throw in a new digital tire gauge. So I purchase the newest, latest system, the TN-507RV/SE, for another $499.00. He even gives me the optional suction cup mount for this new system. I am very excited as I now believe that I have a system that will work as expected; that all of the bad design issues have been addressed.

Day one: Installing the system. I still don’t have a ten-year old girl to remove the sensors from the parts tray so that is still poorly designed. The finger holes are still too small.

I mount the suction cup mount on the dash. I attach the monitor to the suction cup mount. It locks into place as expected. I take the monitor off of the suction cup mount by pressing on the tab and the mount breaks! The monitor will no longer lock onto the suction cup mount. OK, I can live with that, I’ll just use a piece of tape to hold it in place.

So now I go to program the sensors. Nine of the ten sensors will program, the tenth will not. I figure even though the sensor is brand new and the batteries are supposed to last five years, I must have one with a dead battery. I change my plans for the morning, and go buy batteries. I go to the convenience store they don’t have any. I go to the grocery store, they don’t have any. I finally find a Radio Shack with the batteries. I buy two as to have an extra ($10.00). I return to the motor home and attempt to replace the battery in the bad sensor. Upon taking the sensor apart, the o-ring breaks, which is no big deal because I see a bag of spare o-ring. I go to install a new o-ring and it is too small. There is no way I can stretch that small o-ring to the size in diameter that it needs to be to seal the sensor the way it should without the o-ring breaking. (Wrong size o-rings in package.)

I go to call customer service. The first thing I notice is there is no company name, phone number, or address in the manual. I go to the box and see a phone number on the box and I call customer service. I explain my frustration to the person on the phone and she says that she will gladly refund my money. All I have to do is send the system back to them. Unfortunately nowhere on your box or manual is your address. (Poor proofreading.)

She gives me the address and I will be returning the products. I have had to rearrange my travel plans for today. I am now going to have to take my time to package this up, and go to the post office or FedEx to return it. And I’ve spent $1000.00 for that privilege.

I’ve had enough of dealing with products that don’t work. I am returning both systems and expect a full refund.