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Old 10-02-2018, 04:41 PM   #1
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2000 Country Coach Affinity VS 2002 Tiffin Zephyr

We're looking at a 2000 Country Coach Affinity and a 2002 Tiffin Zephyr

Both have tag axles, onan quiet diesel generators, 3 roof airs, 2 slides, both around 75,000 miles. The living room slide in the Zephyr is bigger. The Zephyr has 500 hp and the Affinity has 455. The Zephyr is on a Spartan Chassis with IFS and the affinity is on a Dynomax chassis with IFS.

Which one is made better? Which one is higher quality? Which one would you buy?
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Old 10-02-2018, 06:56 PM   #2
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I would take the Affinity
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Old 10-02-2018, 07:00 PM   #3
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Floor plan is the best way. They are both quality coaches. Which one do you prefer?
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:43 PM   #4
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Three words, FLOORPLAN, FLOORPLAN and FLOORPLAN.

If you are not happy with the floor plan, you won’t be happy with anything else about the coach, either. That MUST be at the top of your list.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:07 AM   #5
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I would go Affinity. Have never owned either one. Better quality in cc. On the other hand, get the floor plan you like.
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Old 10-03-2018, 06:21 AM   #6
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Both have good reputations. Which one do you like the best? Which one has maintenance records? Which one looks like it's been taken care of? Which one is listed with a private seller that can tell you a little about the history.

You probably like the layout of one over the other. Everything else being equal, I would probably pick that one. But everything is never equal. Dig a little deeper and satisfy yourself that you picked the right one.

After that get a chassis inspection and house inspection especially on these older units. If you do you will probably get the inspection costs back in seller paid repairs or a renegotiated price. I did!
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Does the Affinity have a Detroit engine?
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Does the Affinity have a Detroit engine?
Cat C12 on the Affinity
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:47 PM   #9
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Affinity in a heart beat. While you may not agree with NADA's pricing, they clearly see more dollar value in the Affinity:

2002 TIFFIN ZEPHYR

List = $305,550
Avg Retail = $72,350


2000 COUNTRY COACH AFFINITY

List = $448,200
Avg Retail = $83,900
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The Affinity is definitely a higher end coach than the Zephyr, but it is also 2 years older. I would lean towards the Affinity.
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Both are well thought of coaches, basically at the top of the manufactures model chain.

Can't go wrong with either of the engines. The C-12 in the CC and I assume the ISM500 in the Tiffen - both are very late in the engine model series run, so very mature. The 02 ISM, should before the EGR was added, so that is good too.

IMO, the Country Coach Affinity of the era, is one of the top quality built coaches of all time. Attention to detail, higher quality materials and components. Tiffen's top model is also well built - but I do not believe to the same level as the Affinity.

As noted, the ISM500 has 500HP vs 455HP in the Affinity. I bet, and definitely fact check this, that the Affinity will be a heavier coach then the Tiffen. So the power to weight ratio should be better in Tiffen. Both should have great Compression Jake Brakes, with strong Braking Horsepower. As neither one will be a 'Pocket Rocket' - I'd suspect that even the heavier Affinity with the C12, would have more then sufficient power for most usages. (If pulling a heavy double stacker trailer, well, then that extra HP from the ISM might make a difference. But normal traveling with normal toads, either coach will move you down the road, and over the mountains, with ease.)

All that being said, I agree with other comments. Pick the interior you like the best, make sure all of the maintenance has been taken care of properly - and let those two factors guide your decision. Both coaches, with proper care, will serve you well for years ahead. Tiffen is still in business. Technically CC is too. But as a CC owner, I can assure you that their is never any real problem by CC being somewhat of an orphan manufacturer, as far as parts and or repairs.

Both have very active and 'proud' owner's, so if you're into wanting to do club like gatherings, either one will have lots of like minded owner's to have a blast with. And both should have active Owner Forum participation, so you can post questions to get help. (I know for sure that the CC Owner's all pull together to help each other as needed. Imagine Tiffen's owners do this too.)

Finally. Both coaches are worth platforms to invest funds in over the year, to remodel and update and refresh the interiors. I call this level of coaches 'Ground foundations, to build/invest into.'

Best of luck to you,
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Actually, peak torque on the RV version C12 Cat is 1650 ft lbs. That's 100 more than the 500hp ISM. The Cat also has a very high off idle torque (called clutch release torque). I would think the Affinity may even outrun the Zephyr depending on conditions.
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Spartan had ball joint issues.
I think the Dynomax is a better chassis built specifically for the coach by the coach manufacture.
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Actually, peak torque on the RV version C12 Cat is 1650 ft lbs. That's 100 more than the 500hp ISM. The Cat also has a very high off idle torque (called clutch release torque). I would think the Affinity may even outrun the Zephyr depending on conditions.
Thanks Vito. Appreciate you letting the OP know how well the C12 should perform. Never had either of these engines, but they were amongst my preffered engines when shopping.

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