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06-22-2022, 10:40 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Alberta Canada
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2000 Dutch Star weak signal light
I have a 2000 Newmar Dutch Star 3865 diesel with an awful dim righthand signal light. I have now put in a LED set up by BURG. Still dim. Does anyone have any ideas where to start loooking for issues beyond the socket where the bulb turns in? Thanks for now.
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06-22-2022, 10:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Powell River, B.C.
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Welcome to iRV2 and the vintage Newmar family .
Spartan or Freightliner chassis ?
Front or rear light problem ?
Have you checked and cleaned wiring ground wires at their attachment to the frame ?
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2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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06-22-2022, 01:21 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Alberta Canada
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rear
Freightliner and rear
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06-22-2022, 02:00 PM
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Bad ground.....Can cause other strange things to happen.
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06-22-2022, 05:41 PM
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Senior Member
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Freightliner wiring ended in the center of the engine access door on my coach , everything past there is Newmar with a 12 " adaptor in between . Photos below . On the chassis portion check for zero ohms to ground , on the Newmar wiring check for zero ohms from the bulb socket to the Freightliner connector .
Also the ground wire on the Bargman light assembly is riveted to the metal portion of the housing , I've had to redo 2 of mine.
I also covered the reflective area with foil tape .
Check for a Freightliner build decal ; low on the wall to the drivers seat left , for your chassis build date , I have wiring diagrams and schematics for F/L chassis built in 1999.
EDIT : First picture Freightliner wiring is the black connector on the left , Newmar is the grey on the right.
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99DSDP 3884, Freightliner, XC, CAT 3126B, 300 HP /ALLISON 3060
2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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06-22-2022, 05:50 PM
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Here's a photo showing the light ground wire connecting rivet .
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2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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06-23-2022, 09:50 AM
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Good info, thank you. I will get a look at the grounding soon, once the rains stop for awhile.
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06-23-2022, 10:34 AM
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Well here on the coast , forecast is for 6 days , of increasing hot/dry weather ; but last nights wind storm might be an issue to your area . It's weather , all we can do is complain .
A second little Newmar wiring gem , you may want to keep in mind ; is the front cap ( headlights/signals ) harness.
Because they built on Spartan and Freightliner chassis , they were big into adaptor harnesses .
In the case of the adaptor to Freightliner it gave me fits .
F/L headlight system ; each headlight has a relay , low beam power passes through the inactive side of the relay ; high beam , relay active , power flows through the active side of the relay .
Newmar ran wires from both relays together through a multiple connector for the front cap harness , then split them on the other side .
So both relays are feeding both headlights , instead of one each .
Well one relay stuck on , now both high and low beams are on ( 4 filaments drawing power ) and over loading the self reset circuit breaker in the headlight switch .
Headlights flashing , on/off at 10 at night on the I-5 . Not fun . Ended up overnighting at a weigh scale and continued trip with no night driving .
Here's a picture of the connector I removed , arrows indicating splices where the headlight wires come together then separate within 15"
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2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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06-24-2022, 10:58 AM
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Great info, thank you
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06-24-2022, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus DSDP
Great info, thank you
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Not a problem ; I've had my coach since 2010 , and been over, under around and through, it's systems and collected info on any number of little gems that may help anyone new to vintage Newmar on Freightliner .
The two previous owners passed on all the paperwork , including a VHS tape from Newmar ; that one day I'll have to find a player for .
So just ask , when you need to know anything .
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99DSDP 3884, Freightliner, XC, CAT 3126B, 300 HP /ALLISON 3060
2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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06-24-2022, 03:29 PM
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Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Metchosin BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
The two previous owners passed on all the paperwork , including a VHS tape from Newmar ; that one day I'll have to find a player for .
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The two thrift shops in town (next to each other last time I was up there) should be able to help you.
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07-04-2022, 10:44 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Alberta Canada
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Bad ground
Hello All,
I found the bad ground in my signal light assembly. Lights are working much better now. Thanks for all the help.
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