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Old 07-18-2022, 11:30 AM   #29
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Could the ground be loose in the battery compartment?

Could use jumpers to ground the battery negative to the frame I suppose...
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Old 07-18-2022, 11:43 AM   #30
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Thanks Wolfe10.

I will continue to check for bad/loose grounds
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:31 PM   #31
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Holy hell boys, Im back on the road. Went back and checked all battery connections and found a starter battery pos terminal wasnt torqued tight enough. Instant engine start.

God is good. Thanks yall for all the help. Your knowledge is priceless!
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:42 PM   #32
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Old time mechanics trick, Whack the starter with a rubber mallet or handle of a hammer.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:50 PM   #33
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Old time mechanics trick, Whack the starter with a rubber mallet or handle of a hammer.

Ya, but with the OP's symptoms (no chassis battery related stuff worked), it is unlikely to be the starter.
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:02 PM   #34
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OP is on the road again!
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Old 07-18-2022, 06:46 PM   #35
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Free bump to help find some help for these guys.
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Old 07-18-2022, 09:12 PM   #36
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Back to the very basics gets the win. When you get the time get that whole loop and copper nuts all polished up with wire brush. All the frame grounds are not a bad idea as well. I've used one like this to clean rusty frame grounds works better than wire wheel on a grinder. Too aggressive for tin plated loops takes it right off. Can clean inside threads on nuts.
When GM fed the whole vehicle off the positive starter post, no matter how clean two pos. cable loops looked 25% chance of no start or power if you didn't sand or wire brush them. Cleaned them with a rock doing a parking lot /street repairs lol. Being the most mechanical one in group of friends we did a whole bunch shade tree work.
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Old 07-19-2022, 12:00 AM   #38
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Finally at our destination and have a minute to share some additional details.

One of the positive starter battery terminals was not sitting flush on the battery terminal post. Even though the nut that secures the cable to the terminal post was tight, without a flush connection, there wasnt enough connectivity to transmit high amp starter draws.

When a high amp load was initiated with starter demand, the voltage dropped and would trigger the solenoid but did not have enough power to drive the starter to turn the engine over. This explains the low/fluctuating voltage measured at the starter solenoid and the normal voltage readings at the in house volt meter and direct readings at the batteries.

Bottom line, all systems are working normally. Glad we discovered the mis-aligned terminal before swapping the starter. The odd voltage and activity at the starter and relay was about to turn down a rabbit hole.

Thanks to all for the sound counsel!
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Glad you solved it and made it to your next destination. I too had an issue on July 3rd where I was stranded at Love's pump #20. While waiting over 3 1/2 hours for a tow that never came, luckily I found a loose control wire to the solenoid. Tightened it and got back on the road. Learned a lot here from your experience. I'll store it in my brain for future reference if needed.
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