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Old 07-06-2017, 04:55 AM   #1
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2008 Mountain Aire advice

We are looking to move up from a 5th wheel to an A. Found a nice Mountain Aire with 77k on the clock. Looks well maintained and clean. Any advice for me too look at? Plan on hiring an outside opinion as well. Thanks in advance!
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Mountain Aire is a fine coach. That era should be on a Spartan chassis. The MA is one of Newmar's 'luxury' coaches. Getting all systems checked by a qualified independent inspector is a great idea. Make sure the tires have good date codes and batteries may be an issue at this point (assuming they haven't been recently replaced). If maintenance records are available, that is a plus. Even so, plan on setting aside maybe $1,500 - $2,000 for a thorough going over if you get it. Fluids, filters, air dryer service, maybe time to change engine coolant, maybe some hoses/serpentine belt, etc. Generator service to include oil, filter, fuel and air filter. If more than 1,000 hours on genset, Onan calls for a more extensive service to include water pump belt, T stat, temp sensor, valve adjustment, coolant hoses. In some coaches (even with the genset on a slide tray), the genset has to come out of the coach to do the full service. Just depends on how much access is available with the genset fully deployed on the slide tray.

There is a Newmar owners' forum on IRV2 and the great folks on there can be a real help with info on that coach.
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:11 AM   #3
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If your inspector is qualified you should get a true picture of the condition of the coach.

Make sure you get fluid analysis, engine, transmission, and coolant. These 3 items are the biggest risk of high cost if there is a problem.
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.....and take your time and test every system to ensure it works. Even to the tune of bypassing the thermostat on a hot day to ensure all the heater exchangers work in both zones and the basement (assume it has Oasis or Aquahot). Also work the air conditioners both on shore power then disconnect and run the generator. I did that all with mine and me and the previous owner took over 4 hours to do all that. Plus level it, slides out then in and raise levelling system. All this stuff is big $$$ to fix. Get the owner to have the fridge running on propane before you get there and ice maker turned on. Work your way down $$ wise from there - laundry, tv's, microwave etc. Hope this helps and the buying process should take a day or two to complete with prior research etc. Also look up recalls and your local Spartan and Newmar dealers fix those for free to you. Common one is electric steps.
And welcome to the "Make Work Project" as I am always doing little things at the campgrounds on mine to keep in tip top shape.
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Wow. Excellent information. Thanks much. I am looking at one at a dealer that will guarantee all items work. But I will still get a second opinion. And mine being the third! Again, thank you.
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I would suggest that you get an independent certified RV mechanic to inspect all the RV systems, including the roof. In addition I would have the engine, transmission, frame, etc. inspected by a diesel service shop. Having a coolant and oil analysis by a lab (like JG Lubricants -http://www.jglubricantservices.com/) would reveal any hidden problems.

Make sure everything is in writing!! Any purchase should be contingent upon successfully passing these inspections/tests.

I would do this to any used MH I was looking to buy.
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Thanks for the reply. We will do that.
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The 2008 MADP is a great coach. I'm not sure what chages there were between 07 and 08 but I think they are very minimal. The 07's had 06 engines and were exempt from DPF's. Both years have the very reliable ISM 450, one of the best engine Cummins ever made. There is a good PDI list in the stickies at the top of the Newmar forum. What model are you looking at? I test drove and pulled oil samples from the Cummins, Allison, and Onan. Window fogging was an issue back then. The dealer replaced about 80% of mine with new windows. We have had minimal repairs so far. Hope it works out for you and you can become a member of the Newmar family.
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Scottybdivin and I have twin 4528s. I bought a ver nice coach. The only surprise this far is that the refer has trouble staying cold when the ambient Temp is > 85. Very nice coach overall.
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It's a 4523. Runs out well. Going to have a mechanic come check it out next week. Fingers crossed!
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It's a 4523. Runs out well. Going to have a mechanic come check it out next week. Fingers crossed!
Is it a total electric or does it have propane? Mine is TE, so we had the dealer replace the electric only Norcold with a Samsung RF 18. The fridge was already wired through the inverter, but I understand that is not the case for the rigs with propane fridges. However, it would be an easy switch to move the wiring to a breaker in the inverter's sub panel. They are side by side with the main panel.
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Mine is also TE. I've considered the Samsung as well as the Amish cooling unit. Do you know how the power draw compares? I do a lot of boon docking.
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Mine is also TE. I've considered the Samsung as well as the Amish cooling unit. Do you know how the power draw compares? I do a lot of boon docking.
The sticker inside the door of the Samsung says max 1.1 A @ 120V. I assume that's with the ice maker off. It seems to average less than 10A DC on inverted power.
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It's all electric. Look forward to seeing a second opinion from the mechanic. Cheers.
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