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Old 01-22-2017, 06:55 PM   #1
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330 Cummins in JournyDL or Meridian?

We are still searching for "forever" (or at least until we can't drive anymore) RV. Have narrowed interest to 36DL Journey or 36g Meridian, maybe '04 vintage. Brochures list engine as Cat 330, but have come across 2 rigs that owners say have Cummins 330. Does that sound right? Asked Winnebago and was told needed to give VIN to Freightliner and ask them. Thought would ask here first for actual experience of others. And while on topic, if those vehicles actually do come with the 330 Cummins, would there be an advantage to that or the Cat? Novice to diesel, but that's what he wants.
Thanks much for any info and help. , Linda, WA
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We are still searching for "forever" (or at least until we can't drive anymore) RV. Have narrowed interest to 36DL Journey or 36g Meridian, maybe '04 vintage. Brochures list engine as Cat 330, but have come across 2 rigs that owners say have Cummins 330. Does that sound right? Asked Winnebago and was told needed to give VIN to Freightliner and ask them. Thought would ask here first for actual experience of others. And while on topic, if those vehicles actually do come with the 330 Cummins, would there be an advantage to that or the Cat? Novice to diesel, but that's what he wants.

Thanks much for any info and help. , Linda, WA

I looked up the brochure for the '04 Meridian. There were 3 possible engines. The 32T floorplan had a Cummins ISB 300 hp as standard. The standard engine on all others is the Cat 330. There was a Cummins ISC 330 available as an option on some floorplans.

The Cummins ISC 330 is 8.3 liters and has a torque rating of over 1000 pound/feet. The Cat has 700 or 760 pound/feet. The smallest is the Cummins ISB at 6.8 liter and around 600 pound/feet of torque.

I believe that most owners would prefer the Cummins ISC due to the higher torque.
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Cummins 330 8.3

I think the Cummins 330 only shows in the brochure as an option for the 39 ft model. The coach we are looking at is a 2004 Meridian 36g. The other model that listed the Cummins 330 as engine was a Journey DL 34HD. Both owners are quite sure that is the engine in their rig. If the Cummins is really in an occasional coach shorter than the 39', anyone have experience with reliability comparison Cummins/Cat 330? Think the 36 ft coach and a compact car tow could be handled easily by either. So comes down to what are common failure points and how economical to own.
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This is now just a curiosity inquiry. Have committed to purchasing a 2003 Journey DL 36GD, and will be picking up next week. It does have a Cat 330, will be searching for recommendations of systems checklist. Think mentioned am novice to owning a diesel coach, especially something this "new". Hey, it fits our budget with some to spare for travel, and will be the newest vehicle in the stable. Do have a 1982 Chevy 3/4 T PU with 6.2....not exactly same class for comparison.
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Linda,
The brochure for the 2004 Meridian does show three engines.

1. ISB 5.9L 300HP Cummins
2. 7.2L CAT 330HP
3. 8.3L 330HP Cummins

The ISB was the standard for the 32T model. The 330HP CAT, is the STANDARD on all the rest of the models. But, in the 39W, you could opt for the 330HP CUMMINS. That engine was ONLY available for that length coach!!! And, by the way, we have an '04 Itacsa Horizon, 36GD with the CAT 330HP and, it's NOT 760 ft.lbs. of torque. It's 860 ft.lbs. The CAT engines are great engines and have served thousands and thousand of not only motor homes but also, Fire Trucks, buses, over-the-road trucks, delivery trucks, marine applications and much, much more. There are no real issues with those engines. Your 36G will have the CAT 330HP, 860 ft. lb. torque engine.

Ours has served us very nicely and is very dependable. We purchase our coach just over 5.5 years ago with 40K on the clock and now have over 70K on it. Like any diesel, all you need is GOOD MAINTENANCE. Keep your oil changed regularly which includes the filter.

Now, with an '04 model, you may or, may not have only ONE FUEL FILTER on it. That will depend upon the production date of your chassis. In this particular time frame, there was a bit of an in-decision by the two entities involved, CAT and Freightliner, as to the use of fuel filters. So, for a short while of production in that year, only ONE fuel filter was installed. Anytime before that, and after that short time frame, there were, and are, two fuel filters. You will have to check on your coach, and or, call either Freightliner or Winne/Itasca to verify the existence of the second filter.

Anyway, your Meridian is a good coach, well built, very dependable, has a great "basement A/C" --- Heat pump instead of roof top ones. Your 7.5QD Onan Diesel generator is not on a slide out tray, as it was in the Horizon model. It should come with a Dimensions Model, 2000 Watt Inverter/Charger that will run all your 120V A/C outlets and, the charger side of it will have a basic 4 stage battery charging system. Three of those stages are the norm and will be used regularly for normal battery charging. The fourth one is for "Equalizing" the batteries and is done, automatically every 5th cycle of full charging status episodes.

Your coach should have a 17,500 lb. capacity rear axle and a 10,410 lb. capacity front axle. The standard tires for that model are the Michelin 255 80R 22.5" XRV tires but, most likely, have been changed by this time. It also should be equipped with the HWH system for leveling and the jacks or, levelers. If the panel is the 625 panel, your leveling system is a totally automatic system. I've done a bit of work on these coaches so, If you have any questions, ask away.

Anyway, have fun with your new coach.
Scott

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Pardon me for giving you some incorrect information. Your original post stated something about an " an '04 Meridian". I just sort of jumped to conclusion about you purchasing that year and model. Your last post indicates you're heading towards an '03 Journey. So, some of the info I presented you may not be applicable.
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Thank you for info and support. I think the 03 Journey DL will suit us fine and not break the bank. So it should have 2 fuel filters? Am sure there will be lots of questions, appreciate any help we can get. Have a week and half to get things rearranged here and cleared back so it will fit where the Vectra is now. Then drive the little Escort 1400 miles to pick it up and take our time coming home. Of course the dog will be with us, 13 yr old pug gets more attention on the road and is always ready to go.
Will let you know how it goes,
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Thank you for info and support. I think the 03 Journey DL will suit us fine and not break the bank. So it should have 2 fuel filters? Am sure there will be lots of questions, appreciate any help we can get. Have a week and half to get things rearranged here and cleared back so it will fit where the Vectra is now. Then drive the little Escort 1400 miles to pick it up and take our time coming home. Of course the dog will be with us, 13 yr old pug gets more attention on the road and is always ready to go.
Will let you know how it goes,
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Linda,
Yes, your new Journey DL WILL have two fuel filters. One will be visible from the back of the coach, just in front of the radiator. The second one will be accessed by either lifting the bed, moving part of a closet floor or, whatever means was provided by Winne for engine access, for that model and year of that coach. It will be on the passenger side of the engine, very close to the top,next to the engine area sidewall. Many times those filters are pretty hard to access easily.
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The ISC 330 was rated at 950 ft lbs, the ISC 350 was 1050 ft lbs.
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If my memory is correct, there was only one year the Cummins ISC was available in the Journey/Meridian and that was 2004 and only with the 39W (39' 4" length). It was built on a Workhorse chassis where all other Journey/Meridians (and Horizons, the precursor to the Meridian) that year and before used Freightliner chassis with either the Cummins ISB or the CAT 3126B/C7.
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That sounds like what I found after looking through brochures for what seems like a quadzillion times. Was surprised by the workhorse chassis option. We do have a Freightliner dealer about an hour away. Think I need to get to know them, maybe bring cookies.
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Some 2004's may have been built on a 2003 Freightliner chassis and could have had the Cummins ISC in lieu of the Cat. FCCC mostly used Cummins engines, but switched to Cat for a year or so in 2004-2005 when Cummins were in short supply.
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