RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-30-2020, 07:48 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
TriMoot's Avatar


 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Melbourne Beach, FL
Posts: 1,518
Blog Entries: 2
A million miles

Right, we’ve all heard that about Diesel engines, but if you were looking at two identical rigs (or very similar) and one had 90k miles and the other 45k or 50k, we’d all pick the lower mileage rig, right?

So there’s a nice looking rig nearby to us that sorta pushes our buttons but has over 94k miles. Should I dismiss it?

Just like most everyone, the ad says, “we’ll maintained”.

At 94k are there things that will or should be looked at or automatically replaced? Say like fuel injectors?

Thoughts please.
__________________
___________________
1997 RexAir 32' Ford F53 Chassis, Banks system.
1997 Suzuki Sidekick JX, Spokane, WA
TriMoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-30-2020, 08:01 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
saddlesore's Avatar


 
Foretravel Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Home is Where WE PARK IT...
Posts: 4,732
Depends.....

1) Has the unit received consistent maintenance?
2) As with any used unit...Does it pass an extended/in depth inspection(s)
3) NORMALLY You should not have major issues with the engine/drive train if it has been taken care of.

4) It may need tires/shocks/air bag replacements... this is to be expected at around 100k miles.. air bags run around $75 to $200 each.. replaced ours after 15 years..(tag axle every 7 years)
__________________
Retired truckdriver, Full Timing in a Foretravel.
Escapees of Box Elder, South Dakota
....Whether our shack is moving or is parked.. We are still home.
saddlesore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:15 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
MarylandRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Laytonsville Maryland
Posts: 195
My opinion I would want to see 5k miles a year minimum on a diesel coach, not being used is not good for the motor. My unit was 14 years old when I bought it and had 117,000 at the time, and was just getting broken in. 4 years later we are right at 140,000. Could it go 500,000 miles, no problem, 1,000,000 miles seem possible if the rest of the coach doesn’t fall apart first. If it was well maintained you should be fine.
__________________
"No matter where you go, There you are"
2002 Country Coach Affinity 42' #6063 CAT C12 505hp & Matching Featherlite Trailer or 2011 Subaru Outback Toad
MarylandRich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:17 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Rob_M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 457
How well a rig has been taken care of outweighs a 45k mileage difference in a large displacement diesel MH easily in my opinion.
__________________
Rob & Laura
2002 American Tradition 40', 431hp Banks PowerPack
Mid-South TX
Rob_M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:20 PM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 4,988
Time/age is the worst enemy for vehicles. Mileage is all about the maintenance schedule.
My advice is to go with the newest rig and the best maintenance history.
grindstone01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:32 PM   #6
Member
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 65
What kind of engine? The trigger words for guessing what kind of trouble you might encounter include:

EGR
HEUI
DPF
SCR
DEF
Urea

I have a 35 year old ford diesel pickup that has over 500,000 miles on it and still runs great. I think the fact that none of these devices are installed on it is a big part of the reason why.

Our large (100+) fleet of modern diesel pickup trucks at work have all kinds of expensive problems that are directly related to the above list. Our old fleet of 7.3 diesels made it 200-300K miles before we would auction them off. Starting in about model year 2004, we rarely get over 100K before they have to go. This is about 18 months of use towing 10,000# trailers.

I'm looking at getting a different coach from the one I currently have. At the top of my list of features is Detroit series 60, or pre-egr Cummins engine under a coach that is nearly perfect otherwise. I'm not even thinking about miles.
__________________
2003 Monaco Dynasty
2008 Itsaca Latitude
2020 Chevy Spark Toad
RS505 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:37 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 211
Quote:
Originally Posted by RS505 View Post
What kind of engine? The trigger words for guessing what kind of trouble you might encounter include:

EGR
HEUI
DPF
SCR
DEF
Urea

I have a 35 year old ford diesel pickup that has over 500,000 miles on it and still runs great. I think the fact that none of these devices are installed on it is a big part of the reason why.

Our large (100+) fleet of modern diesel pickup trucks at work have all kinds of expensive problems that are directly related to the above list. Our old fleet of 7.3 diesels made it 200-300K miles before we would auction them off. Starting in about model year 2004, we rarely get over 100K before they have to go. This is about 18 months of use towing 10,000# trailers.

I'm looking at getting a different coach from the one I currently have. At the top of my list of features is Detroit series 60, or pre-egr Cummins engine under a coach that is nearly perfect otherwise. I'm not even thinking about miles.
Those 7.3 diesels had a HEUI injection pump.
desertdd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:37 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Triangle Drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bermuda Islands
Posts: 775
Maintenance is the key. Bought our truck with 16,000 miles on it. Only 6 months old. Last I looked it was 230,000 miles. It works hard but it is also pampered. Oil changes, synthetic, every 3000 miles. That is about double the frequency however for most of its miles it pulls an 11,000lb plus trailer.

Once a year it gets an almost open checkbook going over by a trusted small town garage as per manufacturer schedule & anything else that looks iffy. Preventative maintenance is much cheaper than being stranded at the side of a remote highway.


So, don't let mileage deter you. Get it surveyed by a trusted mechanic. Check the wear items & items that don't age well like hoses, suspension & steering bushings. Get the oil analyzed.
__________________
Home: Bermuda
US RV base, MD
2007 Alpenlite 34RLR
Triangle Drifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:41 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
jacwjames's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 7,878
I was in mining for ~30 years and managed several mines, responsible for maintenance. We tracked everything on hours, putting on ~15-18 hrs per day running 250 days a year then to a 24/7/365 schedule. We did do predictive/preventive maintenance including oil analysis. The newer equipment would always see the highest usage. We did have a an engine rebuild program and would track $/hr both on new engines vs rebuilt. If we had a strong running engine we'd make a decision not to rebuild but run it until it fails. We had one engine that ran +14000 hours. So at ~50 mph it would have been 700,000 miles. Not quite a million miles but pretty good.



So when I bought my 2002 rig in late 2008 it had 57K miles. It looked good, and ran good and I could not find a problem with it. After purchase I took it to Cummins for a service and inspection and it passed with flying colors. I've put another 50K miles on it since, most of it in 6 years, haven't used it much in the last 5 years but hoping to hit the road soon.



So if I found a really nice rig with a little high miles but appeared it had been taken care of would I buy it, heck ya.
__________________
Jim J
2002 Monaco Windsor 38 PKD Cummins ISC 350 8.3L
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee w/5.7 Hemi
jacwjames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:42 PM   #10
Member
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertdd View Post
Those 7.3 diesels had a HEUI injection pump.
They did, and our guys would drive them until they were so low on oil, they would quit running because the injectors lost pressure. They still made it 250K miles.

They tried that with the 6 liter trucks too. Didn't turn out the same way lol

Those old powerstrokes were something else
__________________
2003 Monaco Dynasty
2008 Itsaca Latitude
2020 Chevy Spark Toad
RS505 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:45 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
vito.a's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,653
Regardless of our opinions, an RV dealer will severely reduce the amount they will offer you for a 100k mile or more diesel coach.
If I was considering purchasing a diesel coach with 100k plus miles, the price would need to be seriously reduced.
__________________
97 Monaco Windsor- Sold
07 Monaco Executive McKinley- Sold
04 Monaco Signature Chateau IV
vito.a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:55 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
MarylandRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Laytonsville Maryland
Posts: 195
Quote:
Originally Posted by RS505 View Post
What kind of engine? The trigger words for guessing what kind of trouble you might encounter include:

EGR
HEUI
DPF
SCR
DEF
Urea

I have a 35 year old ford diesel pickup that has over 500,000 miles on it and still runs great. I think the fact that none of these devices are installed on it is a big part of the reason why.

Our large (100+) fleet of modern diesel pickup trucks at work have all kinds of expensive problems that are directly related to the above list. Our old fleet of 7.3 diesels made it 200-300K miles before we would auction them off. Starting in about model year 2004, we rarely get over 100K before they have to go. This is about 18 months of use towing 10,000# trailers.

I'm looking at getting a different coach from the one I currently have. At the top of my list of features is Detroit series 60, or pre-egr Cummins engine under a coach that is nearly perfect otherwise. I'm not even thinking about miles.


I would have to agree. I own over 15 diesel trucks ( tractors, box, pickups and vans) 4 are newer then 2007, and I have more problems with those 4 then all the others combined dating back to 2005. Many have well in excess of 300,000 miles. Not passing judgment on anyone else, or there coach choice, but I would not own a coach with an engine newer then 2007, and frankly my 2002 is even better (no egr).
__________________
"No matter where you go, There you are"
2002 Country Coach Affinity 42' #6063 CAT C12 505hp & Matching Featherlite Trailer or 2011 Subaru Outback Toad
MarylandRich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 09:52 PM   #13
Community Moderator
 
TonyDi's Avatar


 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ
Posts: 21,826
I consider myself a good RV owner. I have all the scheduled and non scheduled work done when needed. I keep EVERY maintenance record for my coach. I even keep a log on work that I've done on it. When I decide to sell it, the new owner will get a copy of all my records. I want them to know what they're buying. Maybe the unit you're looking at can have similar records. If not have it inspected. Which is not a bad idea anyway.
__________________
Tony & Ruth........... FMCA#F416727
2016 London Aire 4519, Freightliner chassis, Cummins ISX, 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Blue Ox Avail with AF1. TST 507 TPMS
TonyDi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 10:20 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
tropical36's Avatar
 
American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 2,547
Engine, Engine, Engine is all you hear when it comes to Diesels. Thing is there's a lot more to a Motorhome than just the engine. I'll take a low mileage unit any day and if has some lot rot, then we'll fix it. And no one is forced to choose between a poorly kept low mileage rig vs a well kept high mileage rig anyway, so how about a well kept low mileage Coach and be done with it. That's what we did and even got what we wanted in the color we wanted and for the floor plan we wanted, as well. Did I mention the price we we're willing to pay? Took a whole week for finding it, within a 100miles, but that was probably a stroke of luck. There was another or two, not that far away, but then I don't know what I could have made a deal for, either.
Just saying that they're around if you look hard enough. Maybe a little more scarce since the Pandemic, so..............
__________________
07 Revolution LE 40E_1 1/2 Baths_Spartan MM Chassis_06 400HP C9 CAT_ Allison 3000
Dinghy_2010 Jeep Wrangler JKU ISLANDER
1998 36ft. National Tropi-Cal Chevy Model 6350 (SOLD)
tropical36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How many miles are too many miles... aimhigh46 Class C Motorhome Discussions 47 03-24-2014 09:10 AM
66000 miles vs 22000 miles 2004 350 Cummins Pusherdiva Class A Motorhome Discussions 25 11-22-2013 09:00 PM
is a 120 000 miles on a 2002 ford v10 chassis a lot of miles Joeyak Class C Motorhome Discussions 7 07-24-2012 12:25 PM
miles and miles of texas Big Bobby New Member Check-In 8 12-01-2011 08:43 PM
9999.9 miles to 0000.0 miles Chief Freightliner Motorhome Chassis Forum 9 10-31-2007 08:29 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.