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Old 12-23-2016, 03:52 AM   #15
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I'm also in this debate- new or used. I'm looking at Newmar's le and tiffins red lines.
Both give up some stuff- but new is about the same price as a 3-4 year old next model up.

One thing I noticed about Newmar is the warranty is only to the 1st owner. So the 5 year structural warranty will not pass to the 2nd owner.

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There are a lot of deals out there on 7-10 year old Foretravels. After about 10 years old they seem to sell for what your average mid level DP in that age range would sell for.
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Old 12-23-2016, 04:41 AM   #17
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FWIW - do some reading up on what you are looking at. I'm not sure what you call older so adjust accordingly. Over the last 15 years there have been significant changes in engine and transmission combinations used as clean air regulations and cost control added their bits. Some folks like to avoid certain year ranges for different reasons. If you are going to poke around in the used market you should understand what the issues are.
I think very good advice. Again what do you call older and what do you call high end, different things to different people. Just be aware if you buy new many many people have had problems due to poor quality control and get frustrated with the support from their purchasing dealer.

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I'm also in this debate- new or used. I'm looking at Newmar's le and tiffins red lines.
Both give up some stuff- but new is about the same price as a 3-4 year old next model up.

One thing I noticed about Newmar is the warranty is only to the 1st owner. So the 5 year structural warranty will not pass to the 2nd owner.
Both these units are entry level from their respective manufactures. I'm not sure if they would be considered mid level tier.
The Vantana LE as I understand it is close to it's max weight right off the assembly line. Something to look at. The regular Vantana not LE, is a different coach.
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Old 12-23-2016, 05:03 AM   #18
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I'm also in this debate- new or used. I'm looking at Newmar's le and tiffins red lines.
Both give up some stuff- but new is about the same price as a 3-4 year old next model up.

One thing I noticed about Newmar is the warranty is only to the 1st owner. So the 5 year structural warranty will not pass to the 2nd owner.

I am in this debate too. In order to get a Ventana LE I will have to go up the 40' models. I really like the 3709, but the LE does not have the weight capacity and the regular Ventana is out of my budget.

Is it the Freightliner warranty that will not pass down to the 2nd owner?
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Old 12-23-2016, 06:04 AM   #19
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About your budget. Not only do you have to buy and maintain it but you will want to USE IT.

Traveling and touring is expensive. We figure at least $100 a day when on the road. Leave some money in your budget so you can keep the wheels rolling.
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About your budget. Not only do you have to buy and maintain it but you will want to USE IT.

Traveling and touring is expensive. We figure at least $100 a day when on the road. Leave some money in your budget so you can keep the wheels rolling.
We have that factored in. We was told several years ago by an experienced RV'r that we need to make sure we are not "motorhome poor". We have our max budget, but we would love to get something a lot under the max.

Right now the max is for a new DP and it must have everything set up exactly the way we want it. If we go used and the budget is low enough I can modify the inside if necessary.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:25 PM   #21
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Easy answer, buy used high end.
That is exactly my answer. Our 106,000 mile Safari is far better in every way than the much more expensive Thor we bought brand new and traded for this Safari. The Thor was up to 12,100 miles at trade-in.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:44 PM   #22
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I too would go with a used high-end coach! If for no other reason, someone else has already gone through the de-bugging process!
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:48 PM   #23
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I have two words for you: Re Po. Be very careful tho, some of these are abused, and most are neglected, but they can come cheap. Use the money you saved to buy a good bumper-to-bumper, low-to-zero deductible warranty -- not a bad idea with any expensive high-end used RV. You'll have to zero-time all the fluids and rubber, but you can still come out substantially ahead.
Two more words: Be Patient!
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I too would go with a used high-end coach! If for no other reason, someone else has already gone through the de-bugging process!
In mine they started with an already excellent Safari (Monaco) then spent well over $10k on upgrades since their purchase. We are so happy!
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I would never buy new again, getting warranty on a new one is close to impossible. I did not know about this site before we purchased a new one. The idea of a used high end is the best advice you can get.
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Old 12-23-2016, 06:11 PM   #26
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Used high end. Study floor plans very carefully and decide what you like and do not like. PPL's web site has floor plans and suggested prices. Study that for a while would be my suggestion to get ideas and buy local if you can.
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I agree: Used high end. Nothing newer than 2009. DEF and DPF get added on the newer diesels.
Our target range was 2003-2008 Monaco Signature or Executive, Holiday Rambler Navigator, Travel Supreme Select, Country Coach Lexa, Magna or Affinity, Newmar Essex, or American Coach Eagle or Heritage.

We made a list of "must haves" and "nice to haves" and kept updating the list as we searched.
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High end DP without a doubt!!! Know what you can spend. Find a high end DP that is as old as required to meet your price then have it inspected inside and out by a reputable inspector. I would go so far as to say get the engine and tranny fluid analyzed also. If the dealer won't let you do that then you may have to walk depending on age and # of miles but that would be what you are comfortable with. As far as dealers...they all treat to wonderfully until you sign the paper and give them your money. After that they are all over the place in level of customer service. Good luck!
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