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07-06-2022, 03:24 PM
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Ag Solutions 12100 module for 1998-2005 8.3 Cummings;
Getting ready to install this module in my 2000 Damon Escaper 3980 with the isc 8.3 300hp motor.⁷ I have already installed the fass fuel system. Would like to hear from anyone who has installed this unit and what was your opinion. Thank you for any responses.
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07-06-2022, 06:14 PM
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I'm surprised anyone is still selling them, given the EPA conviction of one "tuner" mfgr. and his associates.
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07-06-2022, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray,IN
I'm surprised anyone is still selling them, given the EPA conviction of one "tuner" mfgr. and his associates.
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The op’s rig is pre-emissions
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2002 American Tradition 40'
Cummins 8.3, Banks 431hp, 1260 tq
Canyon Lake, TX
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07-06-2022, 06:58 PM
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I installed one on mine 3 years ago and haven't looked back. Boost pressure on hills went from 24 psi to 29 psi. Pulling hills are a major difference, very noticeable. I can't really comment on milage as I didn't have a bunch of history on mine before installed. However a typical trip in the NE including many hills have netted 8.2-8.8 mpg @ mostly 65 mph over 700-1,000 miles. I feel it was worth the $$ in the seat of the pants alone. Good Luck !
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1999 American Dream 40DVS
Spartan Chassis, Cummins ISC 330
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07-07-2022, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Meames1
I installed one on mine 3 years ago and haven't looked back. Boost pressure on hills went from 24 psi to 29 psi. Pulling hills are a major difference, very noticeable. I can't really comment on milage as I didn't have a bunch of history on mine before installed. However a typical trip in the NE including many hills have netted 8.2-8.8 mpg @ mostly 65 mph over 700-1,000 miles. I feel it was worth the $$ in the seat of the pants alone. Good Luck !
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Thanks for your response. Looking for a little more power and some fuel savings. I having a little problem finding the right connection on the fuel system. The Instructions really are not that clear. Thank again.
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07-08-2022, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by spongebob
Thanks for your response. Looking for a little more power and some fuel savings. I having a little problem finding the right connection on the fuel system. The Instructions really are not that clear. Thank again.
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They are right above the CAPS pump. Really can't mess it up, the connectors only fit the right plug(s).
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Spartan Chassis, Cummins ISC 330
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07-09-2022, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spongebob
Thanks for your response. Looking for a little more power and some fuel savings. I having a little problem finding the right connection on the fuel system. The Instructions really are not that clear. Thank again.
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You can't have your cake and eat it too in this case. HP requires burning fuel, more HP requires more fuel, and more air.
If intake air capacity is not also increased, the result is over-fueling. Next is getting rid of that increased air/fuel mixture exhaust, you need a larger exhaust system to complete the HP increase. This also requires a quality exhaust gas pyrometer.
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07-10-2022, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray,IN
You can't have your cake and eat it too in this case. HP requires burning fuel, more HP requires more fuel, and more air.
If intake air capacity is not also increased, the result is over-fueling. Next is getting rid of that increased air/fuel mixture exhaust, you need a larger exhaust system to complete the HP increase. This also requires a quality exhaust gas pyrometer.
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Thanks for your input. Have already installed the Pyro and next thing will be a better flowing exhaust , even though the stock Muffler from cummins isn't very restricted. And I've already installed the fass titanium fuel system. Monday is the day to install the new ag solutions 12100 modual. Will do a write up of how it all works out.
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07-10-2022, 06:29 PM
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Ag Solutions 12100 module for 1998-2005 8.3 Cummings;
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Originally Posted by spongebob
Thanks for your input. Have already installed the Pyro and next thing will be a better flowing exhaust , even though the stock Muffler from cummins isn't very restricted. And I've already installed the fass titanium fuel system. Monday is the day to install the new ag solutions 12100 modual. Will do a write up of how it all works out.
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Better exhaust may or may not help. 400 hp Cummins uses the same size exhaust as 330 and 350.
I have a 430hp Banks kit on mine. (originally 350hp) It is no longer available from Banks.
Going to replace the muffler with a straight pipe to see if it keeps ex temps down. If it does I will buy a free-flowing straight-through muffler. I believe the tubing size is plenty big. Muffler more likely the restriction.
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2002 American Tradition 40'
Cummins 8.3, Banks 431hp, 1260 tq
Canyon Lake, TX
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09-22-2022, 02:49 PM
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SpongeBob………Just curious if you installed the device……you never responded after you said you would do a write up
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2002 Dutch Star 3567
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