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lenny-shawna · 07-20-2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nbluesky

Well apparently Toyo are hard to get right now. I ended up having to order my set and have them shipped to my local shop. I decided on 295/75/22.5- G Toyo M154.

All 6 installed with freight $3400. Not a killer deal but fair.

I'm thinking of putting beads in all of them, what do you all do? Beads in front, nothing in back is what my shop says most RVs do. That seems crazy to not balance the rears but maybe that's normal??

I'm old school and balance them.

MN_Traveler · 07-21-2021, 07:14 AM

Maybe silly, but still a serious question. Why NOT balance? I will need to buy new duals and tags next year. Why on earth would I not balance them?

vito.a · 07-21-2021, 09:21 AM

You can order bags of beads online and save some money. I balance all the tires/wheels.

Papa Foxtrot · 07-21-2021, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MN_Traveler

Maybe silly, but still a serious question. Why NOT balance? I will need to buy new duals and tags next year. Why on earth would I not balance them?

In my(fairly limited) experience, it's difficult to find a shop that can properly balance a large, hub centered wheel and tire. Before the advent of balance beads, it was common practice for truck shops not to balance tires. The beads are a simple, inexpensive solution - my opinion only.

Piker · 07-21-2021, 05:21 PM

I spin balance all tires including duals. Seems silly not to balance all positions in some fashion... be it spin, bead, centramatic, etc. Had some bad luck with a set of G670’s that were bead balanced, but I think I had more than one issue with those, so not a good indicator on effectiveness of beads. Any dynamic balancing still requires the tires to be round and spin true to eliminate vibration. There’s some simple science to properly mounting a tire to achieve that... but not everyone who mounts tires does it well.

I just put a set of centramatics on the front two days ago. They work as advertised. I left the weights on the wheels - no reason to remove. When I get new steer tires, I’ll probably buy Toyo’s... and have them spin balanced to get them close... and let the centramatics take care of the rest of the rotating assembly. Just my $.02.

Cheers

guardrail53 · 07-21-2021, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Piker

I spin balance all tires including duals. Seems silly not to balance all positions in some fashion... be it spin, bead, centramatic, etc. Had some bad luck with a set of G670’s that were bead balanced, but I think I had more than one issue with those, so not a good indicator on effectiveness of beads. Any dynamic balancing still requires the tires to be round and spin true to eliminate vibration. There’s some simple science to properly mounting a tire to achieve that... but not everyone who mounts tires does it well.

I just put a set of centramatics on the front two days ago. They work as advertised. I left the weights on the wheels - no reason to remove. When I get new steer tires, I’ll probably buy Toyo’s... and have them spin balanced to get them close... and let the centramatics take care of the rest of the rotating assembly. Just my $.02.

Cheers

X-2 Piker! I also did this on my semi and when tires are your second largest cost, (Fuel is #1), it made perfect sense! Plus, when they are spin balancing your tire, you can check for out of round, run out, and if they are mounted correctly! There is not much to do for a tire that is out of round! I also ran Centramatic's! I routinely got 100K+ out of my steer tires, and 350K+ out of my drive tires, and 250K+ out of my trailer tires! I always ran virgin rubber!
Rail!

nbluesky · 07-22-2021, 05:36 AM

I like your thinking, I'll have them spin up the fronts at least. Run beads in all of them. Ill see what they can do for me. Thanks for the feedback guys!

zmotorsports · 07-26-2021, 06:21 AM

Maybe I'm old school but I still balance mine. Granted on heavy truck tires it's difficult to get them balanced as good as a passenger car or even light truck but then I go one step further and run Balance Masters (same principle as Centramatic) which in essence balance the entire rotating assembly from the hub out while driving. I've had these on all three of our coaches and won't have one without them.

nbluesky · 08-02-2021, 07:25 AM

Quick update, made.more progress on the rebuild in a mad dash to get on the road! 6 new Toyos, some fiberglass put back on, new headlights installed, alternator replaced, new Victron battery isolator, dash A/c fixed, new battery disconnect, TPMS installed, bought a 50a Southwire surge EMS, put in a new step outside the door, fixed air horn, new co/smoke alarm. I've been insane the last few weeks but made it happen!

On our way to Yellowstone and Glacier. Parked in South Dakota right now off 90.

MN_Traveler · 08-02-2021, 08:00 AM

Enjoy glacier … it is like something out of a fairytale!

tropical36 · 08-02-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MN_Traveler

Enjoy glacier … it is like something out of a fairytale!

Probably my favorite with the views on the road to the sun.

tropical36 · 08-02-2021, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nbluesky

Quick update, made.more progress on the rebuild in a mad dash to get on the road! 6 new Toyos, some fiberglass put back on, new headlights installed, alternator replaced, new Victron battery isolator, dash A/c fixed, new battery disconnect, TPMS installed, bought a 50a Southwire surge EMS, put in a new step outside the door, fixed air horn, new co/smoke alarm. I've been insane the last few weeks but made it happen!

On our way to Yellowstone and Glacier. Parked in South Dakota right now off 90.

Looking good. Seems that you have been hard at it. Always like seeing someone, who doesn't fool around, once a project has begun.

Chargerman · 08-02-2021, 09:42 AM

Nice job. Enjoy the break with the family. Glacier is on our list. Was hoping to get there this year but won’t make it.

nbluesky · 08-02-2021, 09:13 PM

Thanks everyone, so far has been pretty good until this evening. We made it to Cody WY. Now we are broke down behind a gas station with a bad alternator and pully. The whole thing is shelled out. I have leads to chase in the morning. Hopefully we can get back on schedule!! We have rafting reservations tomorrow in Glacier!!