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07-04-2015, 01:07 PM
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but I do wonder what percentage of the total number of Michellins out there are affected. Has this been an issue with the XRV's exclusively, or is it an issue with all of their tires?
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That is a good point. I too wonder what percentage of Michelin XRV tires have a problem. This site probably represents less than 10% (just a guess) of total RV owners and would have the vocal owners expressing their experience. I'll bet it's just a fraction of the total XRV tires on the road. Just wondering???
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07-04-2015, 02:46 PM
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Since 2001 I have had 18 XRVs on my MH with only 1 having cracks.
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07-04-2015, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Crasher
That is a good point. I too wonder what percentage of Michelin XRV tires have a problem. This site probably represents less than 10% (just a guess) of total RV owners and would have the vocal owners expressing their experience. I'll bet it's just a fraction of the total XRV tires on the road. Just wondering???
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Crasher
I don't know what % of Michelin tires crack prematurely... but I DO KNOW when all six of the Michelin XZE tires on my coach developed sidewall cracks at 3-1/2 years of age 100% of the Michelin tires I bought in my 58 years of driving where cracked and had to be replaced...(according to my Michelin tire dealer AND MichelinManufacturing Company who makes the tires).Mel
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07-06-2015, 05:22 PM
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Headed to Joliet ILL tomorrow, I'll report back on the ride with my new XZA3 plus, they sure are wider and taller than my old XRV's .
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07-07-2015, 05:55 AM
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Why did you buy Michelens again if you had Micelins that developed lots of deep cracks at only 5 years of age.
(Once was enough too many times for me).
Mel
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Got a good deal on them through FMCA. I've had other brands crack also. Where I park it the sun shines more on the right side and those are the tires that cracked worse. It's the sitting long for periods that seems to do the damage. I have a friend that is on the go almost every week end and his doesn't show any signs of cracking after 6 yrs.
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07-07-2015, 06:46 AM
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Tires are just like people, if you don't exercise them they will deteriorate. Tires are made with a substance that "lubes" them as they move to keep them from cracking. Check out the dates on some older car tires that don't have cracks.
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07-07-2015, 06:48 AM
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Interesting comments. Which prompt a request for additional information. We all know about sun damage, but this is the first I've head that storage vs. driving effects the life. So, I wonder if jacks down, while storing might help. The other information that I don't see relates to use of protectants, like 303.
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07-07-2015, 09:39 AM
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Interesting comments. Which prompt a request for additional information. We all know about sun damage, but this is the first I've head that storage vs. driving effects the life. So, I wonder if jacks down, while storing might help. The other information that I don't see relates to use of protectants, like 303.
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Jacks down doesn't seem to make any difference. It's the actual driving (often) that seems to prolong tire life. Car tires will do the same. A neighbor put a new set of tires on an old pick up and parked it in his back yard. Never drove it for 3 yrs. The tires were badly cracked.
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07-07-2015, 11:03 AM
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another XRV cracking story
I have also used a product that I believe I purchased from RV Upgrades, or maybe Camping World, call Sun Block. It is a UV protectant that you paint on the tires. Can't say for sure that it has helped but my tires will be ten years old early spring of next year and have no cracks. Tire covers have also helped.
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07-07-2015, 04:09 PM
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i have also heard that a rolling, working tire will be in better condition after several years than one that sits most of the time with limited use. The tire lubing itself resists UV rays and air pollution. When you think about it, it makes sense.
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07-08-2015, 05:31 AM
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XZA3 Plus Update
[I]Just thought I'd mention that my XRV's Rolled 22,000 miles a year and always covered when home.
Update!
These new XZA's are unbelievable ! The Coach rides as if it has Independent front suspension. Smooth Ride- Road Bumps hardly noticeable- More stable in heavy cross winds- had a 30 knot cross on I-57 south of Chicago in Heavy storms. Needles to say I'm a Happy Camper!
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07-09-2015, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Algonquin
Well, I went to a dealer, and by sheer coincidence, there was a Michelin rep visiting the dealer. He looked at the tires and agreed there was a problem and then called the Michelin office to determine an adjustment. The office called back and said that they wouldn't do anything for me because the tires are now almost 5 years old. The rep was very surprised and went out of his way to arrange a good discount for me with the dealer.
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Well, my story does not have a happy ending! Went to the dealer to have the new tires installed. Michelin had sent me XZEs because they don't have any XRVs available. I think GREAT. First thing I check is the manufactured date. The tire man shows me the date of March 2015 --- not fantastic but within the 6 month limit which I deem as acceptable. The tires are installed on my rims and the mounting is almost completed. I happen to look at a rear tire and the date is August 2012. ALMOST 3 YEARS OLD! Not only that. but there is a stamp in the tire that says DUAL TIRES ONLY, or something like that. The tire guy says that those tires are cheaper than the regular tires. What --- are these irregulars because they don't meet the same quality standard as single tires? Turns out that only my steer tires are 2015 and not stamped for dual use only. Just my luck that the date I checked was for a steer tire. So I get on the phone with the Michelin rep and he says that he did me a big favor finding tires that were out of stock in Canada and that neither he nor the warehouse is responsible for checking the dates on the tires. He offered to warranty the old tires for me. Sure ... wait until I have a problem in 2 years and then Michelin will claim that my tires are 5 years old. They would not stand behind my original tires which cracked after only 4 years. I had the dealer take off the "new" tires and put my old ones back on. Wasted a whole day with this fiasco, not to mention the wear and tear on my expensive aluminum rims, having to put tires on and off four times. I WILL NEVER BUY MICHELIN TIRES.
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07-09-2015, 06:15 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I would have thought that they would have treated you better than that. Pretty sad.
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07-09-2015, 07:21 PM
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Algonquin,
Welcome to the club.
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