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Old 05-25-2019, 10:31 AM   #15
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Sounds like a similar engine to the old 460 with a modern twist. Hopefully they've done their homework and won't have any stupid problems.
It puts me in mind of the even older Ford engines. You know, from the time when if it said "Super Duty" on the side off hood there would be a F850 in the VIN. Geared right, and with a hand willing to work, the old 534 could move a lot of material at highway speeds. But once GMC replaced the V 6s with the 427, we realized how much gas we where burning.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:02 PM   #16
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If you’re set on new you're in a tough spot. You may not be satisfied with any of your 3 current options. Spend the same money on a 10 year old DP and you’re now looking at coaches that originally listed for half a million. This may lead to satisfaction.
Ok, I'm listening, What can a 10 year old DP do for me?

BTW, I'll need a front overhead bunk and the two side bunks. I've not seen any 10 year old DP's with those and they aren't optional.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:25 PM   #17
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Ok, I'm listening, What can a 10 year old DP do for me?

BTW, I'll need a front overhead bunk and the two side bunks. I've not seen any 10 year old DP's with those and they aren't optional.
Superior quality to anything built today at a fraction of the cost.
Entertaining for 4, accommodations for 2.

For your requirements you’ll probably end up sitting on top of a screaming engine.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:30 PM   #18
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Well...I'm waiting for an Allison 3000 with 8 speeds instead of 6. Maybe Allison will read my post.
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A brand new engine designed completely from scratch. I doubt Ford will get it right on the first year release. I wouldn't mind driving a gasser WOT up a grade if it is reliable. The noise wouldn't bother me one bit.


It is good competitive wise to have another V8 on the market. I love screaming V8's. My last Z06 Corvette had the 427CI LS7 with a 7K RPM redline. I beat the snot out of it every day. After 36k miles, the engine blew. It turned out to be a very common problem with that engine. GM just keeps throwing the issue under the carpet, they DGAF.
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Entertaining for 4, accommodations for 2.



For your requirements you’ll probably end up sitting on top of a screaming engine.
And hence my post about waiting on the non-screaming 7.3. Or a Super C, or a lower end DP. I'm not as uninformed as you apparently think I am.
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"Variable-displacement oil pump"...….No thanks. If anyone was going to try out the first year model I would give it a couple years first.
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Are there any published HP and TQ Specs of the new engine?
My current 2017 V-10 rated at 320 HP 460 ft lbs with the 6 speed does quite well. Noise is not a problem, no doubt a DP is quieter. IMO the driver needs to learn how to drive both the Gasser and DP to optimize performance.
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A brand new engine designed completely from scratch. I doubt Ford will get it right on the first year release. I wouldn't mind driving a gasser WOT up a grade if it is reliable. The noise wouldn't bother me one bit.


It is good competitive wise to have another V8 on the market. I love screaming V8's. My last Z06 Corvette had the 427CI LS7 with a 7K RPM redline. I beat the snot out of it every day. After 36k miles, the engine blew. It turned out to be a very common problem with that engine. GM just keeps throwing the issue under the carpet, they DGAF.
Yes, there might be issues with new engine. All manufacturers have been known to use costumer as test subjects.
My last 427, I ran hard for about 90,000 miles. But, the MT truck by itself weighed about 18,000. Loaded, with the trailer, often 110,000 lbs. But that was a GMC, not Corvette.


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"Variable-displacement oil pump"...….No thanks. If anyone was going to try out the first year model I would give it a couple years first.
I think variable displacement pumps have been around for a while.
I don't know how that pump is set up, but years back Ford sold a bunch of engines (351/400) that with a few thousand miles the oil pressure light would wink at you when idling, but would run for a long time like that.
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"Variable-displacement oil pump"...….No thanks. If anyone was going to try out the first year model I would give it a couple years first.


I think I find the aluminum rockers more bothersome for longevity.
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I think I find the aluminum rockers more bothersome for longevity.
They live on some hi RPM engines. Back in the day to gain RPM we would use stiffer valve springs. On a lower speed engine I would think a weaker spring would get the valves closed quick enough, which would reduce stress on the rocker.
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And hence my post about waiting on the non-screaming 7.3. Or a Super C, or a lower end DP. I'm not as uninformed as you apparently think I am.
Unclear what led to that. Happy shopping.
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Unclear what led to that. Happy shopping.
Perhaps I misunderstood, but I was trying to explain how I'm either waiting for the new 7.3 OHV in a gas Class A, or getting a new, but lower end, DP, or getting a Super C so I wouldn't be with the loud 6.8 OHC. But that my requirements dictated a front bunk and the two side bunks, and I asked about if there are any high end 10 year old DP's with the bunks.

You then told me that my requirements were going to leave me "sitting on top of a screaming engine", which is clearly not true. Many of the Class A gassers are bunkhouse models, and I can't imagine them going away with the new 7.3, plenty of the lower end newer DP's are bunkhouses, and almost all Super C brands are available with a bunkhouse. So either you assumed I didn't know I had valid options that met all my requirements or you didn't know that I had real alternatives to a 10 year old DP that didn't require a "screaming engine."
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I normally don't buy first year engines (remembering spark plug ejections from the early Ford V10's), but I'm in the market for a Class A and my plans to get a lower end DP have now been put on hold until I see what this new 7.3 offers. I don't like how the current V10 "screams" when pushed, but a pushrod V8 doesn't do that (I have the 6.0 Chevrolet in my current class C) and it might allow me to get a high end Class A gasser instead of a lower end diesel pusher.

Of course, a Super C may be my best option.

Decisions, decisions...
You made no mention of bunkhouses in the post above.
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