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09-01-2018, 06:09 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
But aren’t those products a powder, not beads? The beads should be installed without the bag from what I have read on different manufacturers instructions.
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Dynabeads are small head of a pin sized ceramic beads. They are incredible durable. And they are installed in their bags on new tires. For tires already mounted, you remove the valve core and using their applicator bottle, you insert them thru the valve stem. Go check out their site in my previous post.
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09-02-2018, 09:51 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Location: Delano, MN
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Has anybody tried the liquid tire sealer? We use it in our truck tires that go in and out of landfills and construction sites. In our experience it stops most of the small slow leaks that are in the face of the tire and also works as a liquid tire balancer.
I intend to use it in my Class A with 295 x 22.5 tires.
Maybe this question is better as a start as a new thread???
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09-02-2018, 10:15 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
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But aren’t those products a powder, not beads?
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They are all beads, though the size varies somewhat from product to product. It's a myth that Equal is just a bag of sand, or that you can toss in sand or other material as a substitute. But yes, do follow the manufacturers instructions.
Dynabeads also says to leave the beads in the bag if installing in a dismounted tire (they have other instructions if tire is not to be dismounted). EZ instructions and photos at
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09-02-2018, 11:34 AM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club
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If you have a TPS on your tires, you might want to check with the manufactures of your
TPS to see if they are compatible with the Beads.
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09-02-2018, 11:55 AM
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I have Dyna Beads in both of my motorhomes. Dyna Beads do not require a different valve stem core. With Dyna Beads you leave the beads in the bag and insert the bag inside the partially dismounted tire. If your tires aren't dismounted then you use the applicator bottle and squeeze the beads into the tire through the valve stem.
I have been very impressed with the Dyna Beads. My Itasca always had a slight vibration in the front when I would push the speeds. Once I put the Dyna Beads in that slight vibration is gone.
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09-05-2018, 11:52 AM
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Balance beads are bad
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Originally Posted by litlgeezer
Recently, I had 2 new tires drop-shipped to a local recommended installer. This morning I drove over for a tire preview and scheduled install for Tuesday. While there I asked one of the tire installers about their method of placing Balancing Beads into tires. He stated that they always simply throw the bag of beads into the tire during rim mounting - without breaking the bag. (They do LOTS of 18 wheeler and Motorhome tire replacements). I am thinking that the shredded bag might interfere with the beads performance? Thanks, John
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Or - you could have the tires balanced correctly - without beads. While you're at it have the axial and radial runout checked and corrected.
Beads only balance in the vertical direction - they don't take care of axial runout. Most truck tires have some degree of axial runout which has to be cured using traditional spin balancing. So, despite putting in beads, you could end up having a traditional balance anyway.
Having said that, even if you are doing a traditional balance to cure radial and axial runout, you CAN put in a small amount of beads to help keep the ride smooth as the tire wears - but, you'd be better off simply having them rebalanced professionally when you have them rotated.
Yes, beads are the fast, cheap and dirty way to balance tires - however it doesn't address all the tire causes for shimmy, poor wear and vibration.
Personally, I have too much invested in my coach to use a "quickie" solution at the most critical part of my ride and handling comfort.
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09-05-2018, 12:06 PM
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I have Dayton rims , and so far no one I have gone to can balance them. I’ll try the beads if I can put them in the valve stem .
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09-05-2018, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
I have Dayton rims , and so far no one I have gone to can balance them. I’ll try the beads if I can put them in the valve stem .
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Where does Dayton say to take them?
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09-05-2018, 01:02 PM
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Dayton is the style of rim , there’s no bolt holes on it for studs and nuts. There found on dump trucks , school buses (which I have converted ) and box trucks. I’m pretty sure they don’t make them more , now a days people use them to make fire pit rings with them lol
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09-05-2018, 01:17 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Yup - the good old split rim wheels.
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09-05-2018, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
Yup - the good old split rim wheels.
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Thankfully mine are not split rim , but Dayton’s looks the same
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09-05-2018, 02:47 PM
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Damon Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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they tossed in the bags in ours,
tires are smooth so i assume they broke open,
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09-06-2018, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
Yup - the good old split rim wheels.
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09-06-2018, 08:32 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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I'm a user of Centramatics. My position is simply this. Why add one more link into the tire pressure system by adding a special valves so the balance beads won't allow the air to leak out?
All it going to take is one rear tire that following a tire pressure check a tiny piece of sand, or bead sticks in the valve core and that tire goes flat. Drive on that tire for 25 to 50 miles and it is junk. You've ruined a $250 tire.
For me that's just not the chance I want to take. I put nothing into my tires but AIR.
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