Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-16-2016, 11:10 AM   #29
Senior Member
 
badturks5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 101
Hi
I have a 1997 Fleetwood American Tradition with the mechanical 8.3 Cummins. I have towed a 10,000 race car trailer up and down the mountains with no problems. She was in the mid 30's on price. No electronics to worry about. I get 8 mph towing and gen running. The older 8.3 mechanical Cummins engines are almost bullet proof. She is 40 foot and one slide. She is a big girl at 26400 lbs.
__________________
1998 Fleetwood American Tradition 40VS
Cummins C8.3 300 HP Mechanical Injection Pump
Allison Transmission
badturks5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-16-2016, 11:42 AM   #30
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Santee, CA
Posts: 182
I'll add Alpine Coach to the suggested units.

Our 2000 36' (70K miles) is equipped with a Cummins 8.3 ISC (330HP), Allison MD3060 and has a 10K hitch. We've owned it for 13+ years and it has served us well.

We were offered $31500 as a trade on a new Renegade (which we are considering) which I believe was NADA retail. Haven't quite pulled the trigger yet...
__________________
Mark

2018 Renegade Explorer
MFortie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2016, 06:49 PM   #31
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFortie View Post
I'll add Alpine Coach to the suggested units.

Our 2000 36' (70K miles) is equipped with a Cummins 8.3 ISC (330HP), Allison MD3060 and has a 10K hitch. We've owned it for 13+ years and it has served us well.

We were offered $31500 as a trade on a new Renegade (which we are considering) which I believe was NADA retail. Haven't quite pulled the trigger yet...
Not a bad price... I'm looking for a coach with somewhat similar specs/requirements as jlckmj. Is yours the 2000 Alpine 36SDS?

Does it have an engine and transmission upgrade? The brochure lists this model with a 10k hitch but:

UVW: 23,223 lbs.
NCC: 4,777 lbs.
GVWR: 28,000 lbs.
GCWR: 33,000 lbs.
Julius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2016, 07:00 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
Old Scout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,572
Alpine--drive one and you won't have to look at anything else.......
__________________
Old Scout
2003 Alpine 40' MDTS
New Braunfels, Texas
Old Scout is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2016, 10:22 PM   #33
Senior Member
 
B52Guy's Avatar
 
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 233
I had a 36' Holiday Rambler with one slide and a 275 Cat. She was great until I tried to haul the rated 5K and then she labored in the mountains. You mentioned you needed more towing capacity than that, so whatever you do, don't stretch on the towing rating. Older coaches with 10K ratings usually put you into the better class coach, and as most have recommended you can't really go wrong with most of them. It's just the trick of finding the diamond in the rough.
__________________
'07 Holiday Rambler Endeavor PRQ ("Elvis"), and our 2012 CRV toad
B52Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 08:31 AM   #34
Senior Member
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 234
I would have to agree with others in that price range an Alpine is an option. The problem is finding one that someone isn't too proud about if you know what I mean. We almost pulled the trigger on one that was 2000 miles away so it was difficult and then the seller went sideways when I was scheduling the inspector....
__________________
1988 Itasca Sunflyer 27RU - SOLD
octanefam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 02:59 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Santee, CA
Posts: 182
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius View Post
Not a bad price... I'm looking for a coach with somewhat similar specs/requirements as jlckmj. Is yours the 2000 Alpine 36SDS?

Does it have an engine and transmission upgrade? The brochure lists this model with a 10k hitch but:

UVW: 23,223 lbs.
NCC: 4,777 lbs.
GVWR: 28,000 lbs.
GCWR: 33,000 lbs.
Yes, it's the 36SDS model. Not sure what engine/trans upgrade you mean, but ours is the 330HP/950 ft.lbs version. From the brochure, we have most of the 'Gold Coast' package items. Different awning (Fiamma electric awning) and no wood blind (or valance) on the galley window. And since the digital TV revolution the old MotoSat no longer works -- still have all the heavy old analog TVs, VCR, etc.

Ours was custom painted by the original owner so our mirrors aren't chrome either...
__________________
Mark

2018 Renegade Explorer
MFortie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2016, 08:55 AM   #36
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by badturks5 View Post
Hi
I have a 1997 Fleetwood American Tradition with the mechanical 8.3 Cummins. I have towed a 10,000 race car trailer up and down the mountains with no problems. She was in the mid 30's on price. No electronics to worry about. I get 8 mph towing and gen running. The older 8.3 mechanical Cummins engines are almost bullet proof. She is 40 foot and one slide. She is a big girl at 26400 lbs.
I want to tow a 10k trailer with race car also. What chassis do you have? Most have suggested I get a Freightliner chassis but I've found a nice Dutch Star on a Spartan that looking promising.
rtr0id is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2016, 10:30 AM   #37
Senior Member
 
Old Scout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,572
Drive a 34' or 36' Alpine with a ISL 400 Cummins and you will think you are in your race car--even with trailer behind it....and all have 10,000 lbs hitches.....and solid, full-length rail frames....
__________________
Old Scout
2003 Alpine 40' MDTS
New Braunfels, Texas
Old Scout is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2016, 04:29 PM   #38
Senior Member
 
badturks5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 101
Quote:
Originally Posted by rtr0id View Post
I want to tow a 10k trailer with race car also. What chassis do you have? Most have suggested I get a Freightliner chassis but I've found a nice Dutch Star on a Spartan that looking promising.
I have the Spartan Chassis. Make sure that you have the front ball joints checked out before you buy the rig. The ball joints do go bad from time to time and they are not cheap to replace. Otherwise I have had no problems. She rides nice tracks true and have nothing bad to say about the set up
__________________
1998 Fleetwood American Tradition 40VS
Cummins C8.3 300 HP Mechanical Injection Pump
Allison Transmission
badturks5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2016, 06:46 PM   #39
Senior Member
 
dmurdock's Avatar
 
Vintage RV Owners Club
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Cedar Park, Tx.
Posts: 449
Quote:
Originally Posted by rtr0id View Post
I want to tow a 10k trailer with race car also. What chassis do you have? Most have suggested I get a Freightliner chassis but I've found a nice Dutch Star on a Spartan that looking promising.
Mine has 149k on it, 127k was towing a ~10k trailer (Spartan mountain master chassis)...fyi coach is at 32300 w/o the trailer.
__________________
1995 BlueBird BMC 37
2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited
1984 BlueBird Wanderlodge FC35RB-Sold
dmurdock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 03:10 PM   #40
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Sparks, NV
Posts: 11
Found 1996 Country Coach 36 Allure in Sacramento for 24k with 30000 original miles from the original owner. Keep looking there quality coaches out there at good prices be patient. Drove it over Donner summit to Reno and never saw under 52mph, 300hp cummins.
Greg Moe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 03:48 PM   #41
Senior Member
 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 216
Quote:
Found 1996 Country Coach 36 Allure in Sacramento for 24k with 30000 original miles from the original owner. Keep looking there quality coaches out there at good prices be patient. Drove it over Donner summit to Reno and never saw under 52mph, 300hp cummins.
Nice to see the good buys are out there yet, ,I'm still looking, so far I have looked at

96 American Dream, 2 year old tires, well maintained, but the side walls were delaminating a little, but it was priced right.

97 American Eagle, very nice inside, but trans shifted poorly, needed tires, trans shifted horribly and was leaking (a lot) owner came down 15K and I still walked after finding out he rented it out occasionally.

2001 Itasca, nice clean unit, ran well, shifted well but rear radiator and I think it would be a little under powered.

1997 Overland, complete junk, and asking retail at that. I did not want to even get out of the truck.

1998 Beaver, really a very nice rig, clean, well maintained, but the trans did not seem to shift right, needed tires, and way over retail, but it was close so I looked anyway.

2001 Monaco Diplomat, nice coach that is showing some age, ran strong, shifted beautifully.I wanted to buy it, BUT, I could not come to terms, they were asking $44,500 and NADA average retail is $28,000 and he would not budge? (it also was close so I looked at it anyway) I think it will be there a long time.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Linda
SE Wisconsin
jlckmj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 11:30 PM   #42
Senior Member
 
UncleBilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 552
Take your time, the right rig will show up one of these days. Took me 10 months of looking, day and night too find mine.
UncleBilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
iRV2 Exceeds 1,000,000 Posts DriVer Forum 101 | Announcements | Member Forum Concerns 13 06-02-2012 03:32 AM
Upgrade from 8,000-10,000 watt Generator Traps90 Winnebago Industries Owner's Forum 6 03-06-2011 10:25 PM
Cummins Rolls Off 3,000,000 Engine from NC Plant DriVer Cummins Engines 0 06-21-2010 03:35 PM
New 2008 F53 24.000/26,000 GVW chassis ?? JIMOC Ford Motorhome Chassis Forum 5 04-16-2007 09:19 AM
$400,000,000 Retirement Vegascpl Just Conversation 26 04-25-2006 12:53 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.