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Old 12-12-2016, 05:03 AM   #15
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One thing I've found on these boards is that the perception of what is "quality" encases a wide, wide range of criteria. What I may consider a quality build, another may consider cheap junk, etc.

With that being said; Winnebago produces an RV, Vista/Sunstar, that is (in my mind) a notch below Newmar and Tiffin's bottom end coaches. That is, a notch below on price point, btw. I don't necessarily think the Vista/Sunstar fall a notch below on build quality (many will argue this), but definitely a notch below on component quality; plastic sinks, cutout bay doors, etc.

So, a part of the perception of Winnebago, as a whole, possibly gets a little skewed because they choose to produce an RV at that price point, while Newmar and Tiffin have shied away from it. Dunno.

From my perspective, when comparing price point to price point; Newmar, Tiffin, Winnebago, and Fleetwood, all produce somewhat equivalent coaches when it comes to build quality. Again, you will see tons of arguments against that statement. Those four brands (again, my opinion) are head and shoulders above the worlds best-selling mass produced junk I have been inside in the last year.

And of course, whatever brand you own is the best on the market.
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Two things turned me off on Winnebago, first is the windshield frame corrosion issue that has not yet been corrected per my local Winnebago dealer. Second, if you ever read the blog by David Blott (outsideourbubble.com), you can see the issues he had that went unresolved including a bent front axle on a brand new DP. http://www.outsideourbubble.com/winn...-build-quality
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:34 AM   #17
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My main concern was to find out if there were any known major issues with Winnebago. For example, I read about problems with their slide outs working. Has that issue been resolved? Similar issues with the other brands. I know I need to make decisions on quality, service, price, etc. I am asking you to help me identify any major show stoppers that should keep me away from a particular brand. Thanks again for your inputs.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:58 AM   #18
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We are on our third Winnebago and wouldn't have considered another brand until the slide issue. When you start seeing a serious problem showing up in another manufacturer ( Thor) caused by moving to cheaper systems, you stop using them and redesign right away. When a customer comes to your service representative with a problem and is told there is no problem that is not right.
Ours is old enough to still have the hwh systems so it didn't affect us except to turn us off to a future Winnebago coach.
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:07 AM   #19
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The "best" motorhome?

That would be the one that fits your budget. The floorplan you love. The quality you like. No one can answer what the "best" motorhome for you is. Walk in them all, drive the ones that are highest on your list and decide for yourself which one is the best for you.
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Check out the comments on the individual Owners forums and see what folks are saying about their motor homes. No one has mentioned National and you didn't ask about them but I thought I would offer a few comments on them.

1. You hardly see a used National on RV lots.
2. Yes they were one of the first to fold, it was not due to quality, but money.
3. We've been looking the past few years but have not found anything that can match the cabinet space or our closet space. Hers is the full width of the rear of the mh with shelves on one end and a drop down on the other end for her long dresses and coats. Mine is in the bathroom hallway, (46" wide) two sliding mirrored doors and 4 drawers under it. Queen bed with two corian top night stands w/2 drawers each.

In the end it will be what you like and what fits your needs. One last thing I have yet to run into an unhappy National owner, which may explain why you usually don't see one on a used sales lot, Diesel or Gas.
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We are on our third Winnebago and wouldn't have considered another brand until the slide issue. When you start seeing a serious problem showing up in another manufacturer ( Thor) caused by moving to cheaper systems, you stop using them and redesign right away. When a customer comes to your service representative with a problem and is told there is no problem that is not right.
Ours is old enough to still have the hwh systems so it didn't affect us except to turn us off to a future Winnebago coach.
You have just bolstered my point I made on another thread. A valid point was made about cost on the "front end", engineering components that won't fail, being too great. But my view is, the cost stands to be greater on the back end. With a sea of warranty repairs and reputation damage control.........and how much will it cost (do you reckon) to loose folks who swear off a solid brand because of a cheaper components gamble? (If it was a gamble), to be fair, it could have been an honest engineering blunder. If it was a gamble, it's a stupid one I say, and I say it costs a lot more. Sometimes irreversible loss. Takes a long time to regain people's confidence.

It appears WBGO now has a handle on the Schwintek mess. The upgrade seems to be working (I have it). We'll see how it goes from here. I do like my Ellipse, and I think it, with the Tour are underrated by some.

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You did a great job on all the different Rigs.

Well done!! 😃
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