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Old 04-23-2021, 10:19 AM   #71
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Another question. I am really only looking at coaches 2002 to 2007, so pre DEF and sort of focusing on Monaco right now ( the number of manufacturers and models is daunting) . Do most of these coaches have ABS brakes?
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:29 AM   #72
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I sure wish someone made a DP in a bunkhouse model. Seem most DP are set up with only one bed. No side bunks or drop down bunks.
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Another question. I am really only looking at coaches 2002 to 2007, so pre DEF and sort of focusing on Monaco right now ( the number of manufacturers and models is daunting) . Do most of these coaches have ABS brakes?
Some, but not all. Easiest way to tell is turn the key on to the run position, usually at "wait to start" engine preheat time.
If it has ABS, the "ABS" idiot light should illuminate and go out once the engine is started. Not many straight air/drum brakes of that era had ABS, although Bendix did offer it as an option on class 7-8 trucks.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:44 AM   #74
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I would look for a used converted Prevost, Newell, or Bluebird. I have owned 2 Prevosts that were 10 yo when I purchased them and then kept them for 10 yrs and 200k miles. I did not have a problem finding financing for either of them. Biggest pain was rewiring after a rodent chew of 60 wire flat cable. I was able to buy the schematics, electric, plumbing, entertainment for a very reasonable price from the converter.
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Old 04-23-2021, 01:28 PM   #75
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What amount of money are you looking to buy a coach for.
Weíre hoping to be road ready below $70k + or - depending on the rig.
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Old 04-23-2021, 02:41 PM   #76
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Thumbs up Used MH and financing

If a VET, try USAA. 2 years ago they wanted to finance my 2007 Damon Astoria Pacific for 15 years for full book. Great DP with Cummins Allison. Towed Ford Fusion on dolly and air brakes, jake break, transmission, and occasional touching break petal for a few seconds handled mountain driving between Cody and Sheridan just great.

Engine is 5.9 Cummins ISB-2 with 300 hp @2700rpmAlittle sluggish on some mountain grades but went as fast as I wanted to drive.

Would recommend a Damon Astoria Pacific for comfort, value, and performance even though Damon absorbed by Thor and no longer built. No def used and Freightliner Raised Rail Chassis is a good one.

If you see any signs on ceiling of water leaks allow at least $7,000 for replacement. I had new metal bracing, decking, and 2 layers fiberglass put on mine.

Wish you and others great success in finding mh that works for you.
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We decided to focus on build quality, move back in age of the coach to what we could afford. Roads are bad, need a heavy and quality suspension to keep the cabinets on the walls. No regrets on a Prevost Liberty.
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:41 PM   #78
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Country Coach built their own semi monocoque steel chassis called the DynoMax. It was also used on a few other makes for a while. Very solid chassis with good insulation.
First and second are a possible rollover aftermath. I don't know anything about it.
Third is a DynoMax chassis
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I'm in the pre DEF camp myself. Cat got out of the on highway engines around this time due to emissions regulations but have plenty of support from the heavy equipment side..2008/09 coach build would be the last of the pre def era. I think a Mid to higher end coach with the least amount of electronic gadgets on it the better. Examples would be manual hydraulic Jack's vs automatic Jack's, mechanical gear driven slides vs hydraulic slides standard Dsi water heater over older hydro hot units, and a residential fridge..system's that are more reliable, simpler and easier to trouble shoot and repair would be my choice especially if budget matters. The Spartan would be an upgrade in chassis but may be more expensive to repair and harder to find parts for. Monaco, Newmar, Tiffin and of course I'm biased to National would be make my list.
I disagree about manual vs automatic hyd jacks and slides. Mine has never given be one minute of repair problems. Yes the Spartan chassis was a $5,000 upgrade in 2000 over the Freightliner chassis; however parts are widely available as this is a bus chassis.
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I sure wish someone made a DP in a bunkhouse model. Seem most DP are set up with only one bed. No side bunks or drop down bunks.
There are a few out there and I'm always surprised that there's not more.

I guess the old saying is still holding true in the DP (especially luxury DP) world;

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Weíre hoping to be road ready below $70k + or - depending on the rig.
Gotcha. I think there are two of you looking on this thread. If you can pm me, I might have what you are looking for. If this post isnít allowed please remove, thank you.
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For all the drum brake naysayers, the drum brakes will have more pad material and usually have more braking than disc brakes. The thing is with drums is the drum expands as they get hot and separate from the pads when braking unless it is taken up by the system. Some think the brakes are fading, well they are but it is not why they think it is. So you release the pedal and grab some more....... And drums are heavy.
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For all the drum brake naysayers, the drum brakes will have more pad material and usually have more braking than disc brakes. The thing is with drums is the drum expands as they get hot and separate from the pads when braking unless it is taken up by the system. Some think the brakes are fading, well they are but it is not why they think it is. So you release the pedal and grab some more....... And drums are heavy.
Not sure if drums have more stopping power. When I am behind tractor trailers sometimes I see a sign on the trailer.

Warning. Trailer has disc brakes. Stopping distance reduced

That would indicate more stopping power.
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2008, I believe it was the first year for DEF. The bugs weren't worked out. I remember reading posts on DEF problems.

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