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10-28-2019, 05:53 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Willis, TX
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Blown Diesel Engine - HELP - Any suggestions??
We have a Class A motor-home (2000 Diesel Monaco Diplomat, 38 foot 5.8 Cummins engine #45892600), engine light came on and engine powered down (no engine noise or grinding). Broke down in middle of Texas oil fields (near Odessa/Midland), got it towed to nearest town (Pecos), it is still there now. The mechanic estimated $9 K or more for parts and labor but could cost $10 K more when he gets into it. He said cylinder head and cam shaft damaged, have to pull entire radiator front section off to get cylinder head and cam shaft out, due to valves and lifter getting stuck in cam shaft. We don't have $10-20 k to fix and owe the bank 20k, any suggestions?? It could sell for $25-30K if engine was working.
We can't default on our 20 k bank loan but don't have $10-20 k to fix it, so will have to just keep making payments to bank sadly. If someone leased with $5000 down and they towed it to another location to use as living space . . . has anyone done this before, need everyone's suggestion what to do (we just paid $7 k in repairs and service before leaving on this trip . . .it was our honeymoon, HELP!
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10-28-2019, 06:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
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First off, get a second opinion.
Maybe look into hiring an oil field mechanic to do it on the side?
Or sell it for what you can get and take a loan out for the difference. (To me this makes the most sense. There are a lot of people willing to take a project on when they think they are going to make money)
Whatever you do, no more diesels unless you have money in the bank is sound advice for anyone reading this who is thinking of buying a used DP.
The repairs can cost more than the rv is worth, obviously you know that now.
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10-28-2019, 07:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Madison, MS
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Originally Posted by Slasor2017
We have a Class A motor-home (2000 Diesel Monaco Diplomat, 38 foot 5.8 Cummins engine #45892600), engine light came on and engine powered down (no engine noise or grinding). Broke down in middle of Texas oil fields (near Odessa/Midland), got it towed to nearest town (Pecos), it is still there now. The mechanic estimated $9 K or more for parts and labor but could cost $10 K more when he gets into it. He said cylinder head and cam shaft damaged, have to pull entire radiator front section off to get cylinder head and cam shaft out, due to valves and lifter getting stuck in cam shaft. We don't have $10-20 k to fix and owe the bank 20k, any suggestions?? It could sell for $25-30K if engine was working.
We can't default on our 20 k bank loan but don't have $10-20 k to fix it, so will have to just keep making payments to bank sadly. If someone leased with $5000 down and they towed it to another location to use as living space . . . has anyone done this before, need everyone's suggestion what to do (we just paid $7 k in repairs and service before leaving on this trip . . .it was our honeymoon, HELP!
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Sorry your Honeymoon was ruined by this unexpected expense. IF you do decide to rent it out as a stationary living space, you may as well consider having them remove the engine and tranny and sell those for parts. If the cummins block is undamaged, it should be worth something as a rebuildable core, at the least. The Allison alone may be worth a couple grand.
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10-28-2019, 07:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Metamora, MI
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Congrats on your honeymoon!
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10-28-2019, 07:11 PM
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 651
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Originally Posted by agpopp
First off, get a second opinion.
Maybe look into hiring an oil field mechanic to do it on the side?
Or sell it for what you can get and take a loan out for the difference. (To me this makes the most sense. There are a lot of people willing to take a project on when they think they are going to make money)
Whatever you do, no more diesels unless you have money in the bank is sound advice for anyone reading this who is thinking of buying a used DP.
The repairs can cost more than the rv is worth, obviously you know that now.
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x2 on the oil field mechanic idea. You're pretty much in the middle of oil field country and there are probably as many, or more, good diesel mechanics in the oil fields as there are anywhere.
At any rate, I definitely would get a second opinion.
Sorry for your troubles. Good luck.
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10-28-2019, 07:30 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Baton Rouge, La
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Second Opinion
Find a supply house that sells diesel part and ask for recommendations.
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10-28-2019, 07:32 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 92
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I doubt the shell could be leased for very much, your options are, fix it, or consider it as salvage, tough situation,
Good Luck
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10-28-2019, 07:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,209
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Sad story. But this shows the hazards of a diesel class a motorhome with few resources to pay for major repairs.
This is a 19 year old vehicle. Sometimes I wonder why people take these risks
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10-28-2019, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Never heard of one going down like that .. There are thousands of 5.9s out there ... used and rebuilt... Might need a better shop ... That 5.9 should be easy to pull and drop another in ... I could do it in my shop !!
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10-28-2019, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Sacramento CA.
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How far are you from home, maybe tow it home then you will have time to think about and get other opinions ,and yes get a second opinion on the repairs
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10-28-2019, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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So sorry to read this tragic story.
This is a very expensive learning experience.
Can you go to whomever you have your loan with and get their advice?
Get their help ?
Ultimately the lien holder Owns this rv at this point.
They have $20,000. Invested.
You need to talk to them very soon and go from there.
If you cant pay the shop for the tear down estimate???
The shop can put a lien on the rv. This is quite a common practice.
This is exactly why the experienced owners advise having a cash cushion of $10 to $20
Thousand available to stay on the road.
Keep us advised please
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10-28-2019, 08:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pmiller1
Never heard of one going down like that .. There are thousands of 5.9 out there ... used and rebuilt... Might need a better shop ... That 5.9 should be easy to pull and drop another in ... I could do it in my shop !!
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Exactly correct.
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10-28-2019, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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So sorry for the bad timing, Sounds like you got a good deal on the coach in the first place. If it has low mileage and everything else is in good working order I would take out a loan and make payments on the repairs although other issues could come up that cannot be diagnosed until running. These things are big investments new and old. Many shops will adjust the parts and labor if they know you are going to walk away. A major GM dealer dropped their original price by $1300 on my wife’s car when I said no way.
It can be done cheaper but a regular mechanic will be shocked too when they realize the cost of all the oil and fluid refills and typically no warranty.
The most expensive part that the coach is named for is worth fixing.
Also consider that the 10k is going towards keeping your credit good.
Good luck.
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10-28-2019, 08:13 PM
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Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: So Calif
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Find a good reasonable priced shop and short block it, then keep moving on.
You would have to spend much more to replace the entire coach. I've done this a few times in my life, and never regretted it.
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