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Old 07-24-2021, 10:36 AM   #1
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"Buy American"...made in India ???

Is it true that the Dana S130 differential is made in India ?

This is exactly the type of outsourcing that our country needs to recapture.
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Is it true that the Dana S130 differential is made in India ?

This is exactly the type of outsourcing that our country needs to recapture.
Quite agree. We need to support our industries that still manufacture in North America. Most of the products in walmart seem to be made in China. Yes theYmight be a little cheaper but how long do they last. I came to the conclusion many years ago that I can't afford to buy cheap. Buy the best you can afford. It will last.
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I saw videos a few years ago,should be on youtube somewhere, of India manufacturing steel products , think of hot metal with flip flops.
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Quite agree. We need to support our industries that still manufacture in North America. Most of the products in walmart seem to be made in China. Yes theYmight be a little cheaper but how long do they last. I came to the conclusion many years ago that I can't afford to buy cheap. Buy the best you can afford. It will last.
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Walmart had started a program a few years ago to bring manufacturing back to the US. They have put up over 350 billion dollars to support new US industry growth.
The problem with the costs out of country is more often then not, the raw materials in the USA cost more then the parts made out of country.
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I would love to buy American. It would mean jobs for my neighbors and my state. However, it is extremely difficult for our manufacturing base to be cost competitive with foreign sources. We have safety standards for workers, pollution abatement standards for our manufacturing processes, un-employment and social welfare taxes for our employees. If the work is done in India, China or even Mexico, those costs are negated. I'm not saying to do away with those safety measures, I'm just saying it is difficult for our manufacturing base to compete with those 3rd world countries.
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I would love to buy American. It would mean jobs for my neighbors and my state. However, it is extremely difficult for our manufacturing base to be cost competitive with foreign sources. We have safety standards for workers, pollution abatement standards for our manufacturing processes, un-employment and social welfare taxes for our employees. If the work is done in India, China or even Mexico, those costs are negated. I'm not saying to do away with those safety measures, I'm just saying it is difficult for our manufacturing base to compete with those 3rd world countries.
Exactly. Expecting American labor to be competitive with workers earning 1/10 that amount is folly. Ain't gonna happen.

Most of the issues with domestic production of anything are governed by consumer behavior - wanting something at the cheapest price. That behavior is not limited to cheap stuff at WallyWorld - look at how hard some RV buyers will work to beat a dealer down another $500 on a $600,000 DP... Some are the type of consumers who will say "I prefer USA made products" but whose spending behavior will not support domestic production.

We're not a 3rd world country, but want to buy goods at those prices. The math doesn't work out.
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This explains a LOT....
Notice the lack of hard hats and I'll bet there's not a steel toed boot in the whole country.

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Mack Trucks are the only American big truck mfr still building all their trucks in America. The CEO said they always will be as long as he is in charge. That's the sort of gumption we need from more of our business leaders.
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Well actually.....in the heavy truck industry
PACCAR - Peterbilt and Kenworth, is the only one left American OWNED and still made in USA. Headquarters in Washington state.

Mack is owned by Volvo (Sweden), assembled in Pennsylvania

Volvo is assembled in Virginia

Freightliner owned by Daimler Benz (German) ... also own Oshkosh, Thomas bus and some other to name a few

International (Navistar) owned by Traton (Volkswagen German)



At least there all assembled here in the US, employing 1000's

But then so are all the other foreign owned autos and truck

Good news is that it appears all the motorcoach mfg are US owed! I guess the other countries ain't interested, ha-ha...but one look at that industries "quality control" process would tell you that!

It a global world of manufacturing.
Parts and pieces made all over and assembled here.
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Uh huh... my motorhome and all subsequent work has been done by stateside businesses and ALL has been flawless... LOL

But I do understand the concept and support buying American (which really should be Made In USA as a preference).
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It's no longer just components for manufacturing and the general merchandise you'd find at Wally's or Target. It's creeping into grocery. We recently found peanut butter from India and frozen vegetables from China packaged and branded to appear as if they were made here!

Do you remember the pet food that killed dogs and cats and a brand of toothpaste made from imported Chinese ingredients from a few years ago?

Support the small local producers, we do!
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Anybody remember back in the 80's when Walmart bragged that everything they sold was Made In The USA?
I do.
What the hell happened?
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Anybody remember back in the 80's when Walmart bragged that everything they sold was Made In The USA?
I do.
What the hell happened?
Capitalism happened.

So did the taboo of having a serious sensible discussion asking if we could find a better alternative.
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Capitalism happened.

Capitalism happened during WWII too. Somehow it worked for us then.
I repeat, what happened?
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