|
11-13-2017, 05:55 AM
|
#1
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 24
|
CAT 3126B Injection Action Pressure Fault Codes
I'm posting this to see if anyone out there has experienced something similar; flash codes 15 and 39 discovered after engine de-rated with check engine light coming through Atlanta on I-20. Bus was running fine until traffic slow down when check engine light came on. Limped it home de-rated (40mph max, 40% max engine power) and got flash codes 15 and 39. It drove fine without issue the next day to local Atlanta CAT dealer and their diagnosis is it needs HEUI pump, injectors and oil rail flush--possible metal contamination. It's the 15 code that has me wondering as my understanding is that is an IAP sensor/harness that has an open, short or out of range reading, plus the fact it drove without issue the following day and the check engine light was out after I started it shortly after arriving home. Seems very gremlin-ish. The kit for the HEUI pump and injectors is $4K. I asked the service manager if they had commanded the ECM to various pressures to see if the pump can keep up and he said yes plus they performed individual cylinder tests. Engine has 85K miles and I'm surprised by their diagnosis. Work hasn't started yet and I'm wondering if I grab an IAP sensor and Injection Actuation Pressure Control Valve replace them myself and take a chance.
Dave Greer
1999 Beaver Contessa Naples 40'
CAT 3126B
1987 Bronco (toad)
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
11-14-2017, 03:16 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Odessa, Tx.
Posts: 845
|
1. you will get more replies if you post this on the CAT forum
2. have seen the you tube video from Adept Ape about the new oil filter for the HEUI oil supply line? If you buy the pump be sure they installed the upgraded supply line filter to the new pump.
3. replacing those parts yourself is only $2-300 and cannot hurt
4. I agree that it seems odd that its crippled one day and fine the next
5. I'm driving a 2001 myself so I'm really interested in you outcome.
__________________
John and Sue from W. Texas
2001 DSDP, 3126B Cat
"the Oilfield PAID me to retire, so I did" :-)
|
|
|
11-14-2017, 03:33 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Odessa, Tx.
Posts: 845
|
__________________
John and Sue from W. Texas
2001 DSDP, 3126B Cat
"the Oilfield PAID me to retire, so I did" :-)
|
|
|
11-14-2017, 04:07 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Show Low Az
Posts: 1,321
|
you have a erratic IAP sensor properly. change it. 15 minute job, $160. do not forget the oring
__________________
Dale&Susan, 08 Alfa Gold, DaGirlsRv Blog
2015 F-150XLT_2000W Solar_800 AmpHr Lithium
Magnum_MSH 3012 & PT100
|
|
|
11-14-2017, 03:03 PM
|
#5
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 24
|
For JNSNWT: I'll let you know the outcome with details. I've seen all the Adept Ape YouTube videos and could do the work myself. First time in over 20 years anyone has worked on any of my engines. I've elected to have the local CAT center replace with their "kit"--pump, injectors and I've got to find out what else is included, hopefully the new supply line. Business trip coming in a few days with no time to work on the bus...
For gatorcq: I couldn't agree more with your diagnosis. It came down to a time and risk issue and had to go with the pump/injector "kit". If the thing de-rates after a sensor-only change on the next trip it becomes a much bigger problem.
|
|
|
11-14-2017, 03:18 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Show Low Az
Posts: 1,321
|
Good decision on your part, please keep us informed.
__________________
Dale&Susan, 08 Alfa Gold, DaGirlsRv Blog
2015 F-150XLT_2000W Solar_800 AmpHr Lithium
Magnum_MSH 3012 & PT100
|
|
|
11-14-2017, 10:51 PM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: silverdale wa.
Posts: 1,163
|
I had an HEUI pump,6 injectors, seals, Iapc and sensor and oil and coolant change by a CAT shop in Longview, Wa. for $5K total, not counting sales tax.
__________________
Bigdog
2001 National Tradewinds 7390 LTC
2002 Subaru Legacy outback Limited stick
|
|
|
11-14-2017, 11:07 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,772
|
Had the same derating losss of power problem in Washington State(?). The sensor was first thought the problem and cost about 1000$ to replace. Ran fine for about 100 miles then same thing. Then Heui pump replacement 3500$ which solved the problem. This was 3 years ago on C7 with 35000 miles.
__________________
Terry & Alice
2006 Bounder 38L DP
2012 GMC Terrain
|
|
|
11-18-2017, 05:35 AM
|
#9
|
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 24
|
The bus came home Thursday. Total damage was $6685. HEUI pump was $1071.86 (reman). Injectors (reman) were $366 each. IAP sensor was $153. CAT DEO ULS 15W40 oil is only $2.45/qt. LABOR $2646. Tough engine to work on. All connections at the pump were corroded. One valve cover bolt broke and had to be drilled out and heli-coiled. Beaver has Hurricane system hoses crossing and lying on top of valve cover. Workmanship and attention to detail seemed very good and well explained on invoice.
There was no mention of the oil cooler/oil cooler gasket as a contamination source but that was a non factor as I replaced it 5 years ago.
We'll see how it does going south on I-75 Monday.
Dave Greer
1999 Beaver Contessa Naples 40'
CAT 3126B
1987 Ford Bronco
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|