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Old 08-16-2021, 05:25 PM   #71
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One less catalytic converter thief to worry about.

I saw this story a few months back. Not sure people caught stealing catalytic converters should be killed on the spot in a brutal manner, but on the other hand maybe society is better off.

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Old 08-16-2021, 08:07 PM   #72
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My recommendation for using the owner's state-issued DL number to prevent or help recover stolen valuables is based on dated information from before the interwebs made personal privacy a myth. I did it in the 70s and 80s based on recommendations from the California Highway Patrol when CAT thefts became an issue beginning in 1975 when they were mandated.
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Understood, hence my comment about engraving the SSN on stuff. I used to use a 1970's advertisement in my security awareness classes that sold a kit to engrave your SSN on your car windows and other places as a theft deterrent. Of course, that was when a car lasted 50,000 miles if that.

Can you imagine going to a bank today to get a business loan to fund a startup company to produce that product today?

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Old 08-16-2021, 08:11 PM   #73
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I saw this story a few months back. Not sure people caught stealing catalytic converters should be killed on the spot in a brutal manner, but on the other hand maybe society is better off.
I'll bet there aren't too many catalytic converter thefts in the Middle East.

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Old 08-17-2021, 08:33 AM   #74
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I would etch my license plate number and state. If I see this on a converter I would run the license plate and then contact the owner. We have this issue in my area also. The meth heads are very active. I have arrested persons for this type of theft and gave the converter back to the owners. They had several others in their vehicle which I took and put in our property room hopefully to match up with other victims calling in the next day. Some called but others did not so we have several converters in our property room which will probably be auctioned off at a later date. I like this idea of painting and etching and will be telling people this suggestion.
It's reassuring to hear that you actually have arrested people for this, and contacted owners if the plate # and state were a etched on the cat. I did put my state on it as well.

I still think if a thief looks under the vehicle and sees an orange cat with etchings, they're just going to move on. They normally work with a flashlight, a cordless Sawzall, and a jack man, so they'll see that license number on the cat if they got under mine.

As far as the discussions about killing people for stealing a catalytic converter, I think that's a bit out of line. You don't kill people for minor property crimes, as annoying as they are.
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To all the law enforcement folks on this forum I thank you for your service. I can't begin to imagine the frustration you must face each day when you make an arrest and the person you arrested is released almost before you finish the paperwork. It seems as though those committing crimes have more rights than we have in today's society.
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It's reassuring to hear that you actually have arrested people for this, and contacted owners if the plate # and state were a etched on the cat. I did put my state on it as well.

I still think if a thief looks under the vehicle and sees an orange cat with etchings, they're just going to move on. They normally work with a flashlight, a cordless Sawzall, and a jack man, so they'll see that license number on the cat if they got under mine.

As far as the discussions about killing people for stealing a catalytic converter, I think that's a bit out of line. You don't kill people for minor property crimes, as annoying as they are.
As a retired LEO you know as well as I do that stealing convertors isn't the only crime/s they are involved in. Far from it. These crime aren't minor when you start adding the cost up. I'm all for letting the victim deal their final blow when caught. The court room today is a circus. Rinse...lather...repeat.
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As a retired LEO you know as well as I do that stealing convertors isn't the only crime/s they are involved in. Far from it. These crime aren't minor when you start adding the cost up. I'm all for letting the victim deal their final blow when caught. The court room today is a circus. Rinse...lather...repeat.
And if I walk outside and see someone under my motorhome trying to steal the converter and shoot them, then I'm going to prison for life. I think it's good that you're retired.
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The thieves that steal these steal for their drug addiction. I've drawn the line with them. Catch you...and you won't be stealing anymore from anyone. Judge, jury and executioner. And lose no sleep over it. They're in my book no different than one who commits crimes against children.
Agreed.

If someone asks, I try to help… if I see a need, I try to help. I have known thieves… could have been one, perhaps had things gone different. I do not condone behavior such as this..and have protected kids when it meant everything I had was on the line. I have seen the sickness of drugs (yes, alcohol is just legal)…

I think words are all that separate our intentions here..
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