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05-06-2021, 02:55 PM
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Changing Orientation on 50 Amp Plug
The 50 amp plug orientation on my motorhome is 180 degrees out of sync with the orientation of the wall plug in my storage unit. The owners of the storage unit are not eager to change the orientation of the storage unit plug. So right now I have to lead the plug lead from my coach above the wall plug and then bend it down so the plug on my coach matches the wall plug orientation. If I don't use a zip tie to secure the wire from my coach to the conduit above the wall receptacle the bend in the wire tries to pull my plug out and puts an excessive bend on the wiring from my coach.
Is there a dongle type arrangement that has a 50 amp female receptacle on one end with a 50 amp male plug on the other where the male plug orientation is 180 degrees different from the female end?
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05-06-2021, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas John
The 50 amp plug orientation on my motorhome is 180 degrees out of sync with the orientation of the wall plug in my storage unit. The owners of the storage unit are not eager to change the orientation of the storage unit plug. So right now I have to lead the plug lead from my coach above the wall plug and then bend it down so the plug on my coach matches the wall plug orientation. If I don't use a zip tie to secure the wire from my coach to the conduit above the wall receptacle the bend in the wire tries to pull my plug out and puts an excessive bend on the wiring from my coach.
Is there a dongle type arrangement that has a 50 amp female receptacle on one end with a 50 amp male plug on the other where the male plug orientation is 180 degrees different from the female end?
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Not that I've seen - most NEMA 14-50P made in the last decade or so have the cable exit below the neutral pin, although there are some with "straight" cable exit like a conventional Edison plug.. What is the storage lot manager's problem with proper orientation of the outlet? Turning it around will put less stress on their outlet from the shore power cord... i.e. it's in their interest to have the outlet flipped around.
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05-06-2021, 03:17 PM
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100% of the 50 amp RV shore power cords are the SAME.
Really not difficult to install the outlet properly. OR he can get the same complaint for everyone who rents that space forever.
Wonder who his electrician was???
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05-06-2021, 03:18 PM
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Tell the storage lot owner that the outlet is incorrectly installed , which it is .
I would also be concerned if the outlet has been phased , neutral and hot leads , correctly . If you have a surge protector it should show if the phasing is correct or not.
If he is still unwilling , and I suspect it's the cost , you might offer to split the cost to hire an electrician to correct the orientation. Or find another storage yard . Life's to short to have to deal with unreasonable people
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05-06-2021, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo_RV_Guy
What is the storage lot manager's problem with proper orientation of the outlet? Turning it around will put less stress on their outlet from the shore power cord... i.e. it's in their interest to have the outlet flipped around.
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Any RV owner in that stall will have the same complaint .
Manager probably doesn't want to pay for some to come back to the facility to fix something that wasn't installed properly in the first place .
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05-06-2021, 03:29 PM
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If you get him to turn it off it would take about 5 minutes to turn it over. Probably no more than 4 screws to remove and replace.
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05-06-2021, 03:32 PM
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plug ?
It's not rocket science to flip the plug yourself.
Better to turn off the breaker for that circuit, but I'v done it "hot".
Old Colorado saying is "shoot, shovel, shut up".
Good luck.........
Mike in Colorado
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05-06-2021, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim18655
If you get him to turn it off it would take about 5 minutes to turn it over. Probably no more than 4 screws to remove and replace.
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That's what I was thinking or tell the storage owner his facility is not up to code and you are going to report him to code enforcement.
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05-06-2021, 03:37 PM
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But, in addition to proper orientation, given that it is the incorrect orientation, absolutely, as suggested by others above, pull out your voltmeter and verify that it is correctly wired.
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05-06-2021, 06:13 PM
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Are you sure about this plug? I would hang the cable on several nails above the outlet or drywall screws. Your last month would be right after threatening code enforcement which I doubt includes orientation of the plug.
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05-06-2021, 07:02 PM
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OK , a second thought , I always have them .
I remember trying to correct the outlet in my S&B for the range , and the outlet plate could not be rotated to fit the box any other way but the way it was installed . Not to code !
If the conduit comes down from above and the box is installed wrong then the outlet plate might not be able to be turned to correct the issue .
Any chance you could post some pictures .
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05-06-2021, 08:24 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy12
Are you sure about this plug? I would hang the cable on several nails above the outlet or drywall screws. Your last month would be right after threatening code enforcement which I doubt includes orientation of the plug.
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Cut that end off and attach the other plug end, problem solved.
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05-06-2021, 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy12
Are you sure about this plug? I would hang the cable on several nails above the outlet or drywall screws. Your last month would be right after threatening code enforcement which I doubt includes orientation of the plug.
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It does not matter what that end is. It is going in the trash.......
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