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Old 02-19-2018, 05:14 PM   #15
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I spent many years involved in aviation safety including accident investigation followed by one year driving a city transit bus and five years driving every kind of school bus including rear engine CNG pushers. Then I started driving and comparing motorhomes to the buses. The school buses are much better designed for safety in all respects except one. That of course is the lack of seat belts for the passengers. I know why they don't and why they still don't. It's $afety spelled with a dollar sign.

Things to consider. As previously pointed out anything or anybody riding behind the steel reinforced driver's compartment is unlikely to survive a tip over much less a roll over. Unsophisticated consumers will pay the big bucks for bling like marble floors, tile backsplashes and granite countertops. They don't stop to think of the cost of adding all that weight to the load the tires, wheels, brakes, axles, engine, transmission and frame must safely carry. The hidden costs are losses in safety and reliability of components that are stressed to their design limits before the owners start loading up their stuff.

Consider structural integrity. Would you prefer steel structural members like they used to use in your sidewalls and roof or the aluminum they use today? Would you prefer a full wall slideout with no bracing the length of the slide or two smaller slides without the big yawning hole in the side of your coach? Would you be willing to forgoe the rear bath and washer and dryer to prevent exceeding your GRAWR or would you rather add a tag axle and added expense of two more tires, wheels and brakes for a marginal improvement?

Most crashes are going to crunch the front of the coach. Where is your entry door? Will it open? Most tip overs in this country end up with the entry door laying on the ground. You ain't going out that one unless maybe it's a mid entry door. It might be laying on the ground but it probably got ripped off with the rest of the coach. How are you going to get out? The exit window on the roadside? It's going to be 8 feet up in the air. Are you tall enough to reach it, operate it and pull yourself and others out? I'm not.

Assume your coach is intact enough that you can and must go out a rear emergency exit window. Unless you have a rear window (like my DP has) your only usable exit is still 8 feet above the part you're standing on. Even if your coach is upright on all wheels it's a long way to the ground out a side emergency exit window. I have rigged a marine docking line into an escape rope with hand and foot loops firmly anchored to the floor where I can put the running end out either of my two bedroom exit windows. My primary rear emergency exit window is the one out the back where my DW and I can easily get out the much larger window, slide on to the seat of the motorcycle, step on to the bike carrier and then to the ground. Almost easy peasy.

I hope I haven't bored anyone. I'm sure some of you may disagree with me. As you can tell I am passionate about this stuff. I have been to way too many memorial services and funerals of friends and squadron mates killed in preventable accidents. Enough is enough.

Great post, a lot to take in.
I am not even sure my coach has a steel frame in the driver's area. Must check the brochure.
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As far as I can see the safest are the crash tested chassis, the only ones i know are bluebirds(school bus ) and Prevost (passenger coach) Look for 'passenger rated' crash tested ,air bag etc.
I think a class C that is based on a crash tested van/pick up is a better bet then any class A
however I don know if the cutaway effects it much.
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As far as I can see the safest are the crash tested chassis, the only ones i know are bluebirds(school bus ) and Prevost (passenger coach) Look for 'passenger rated' crash tested ,air bag etc.
I think a class C that is based on a crash tested van/pick up is a better bet then any class A
however I don know if the cutaway effects it much.

I have read that class c's in general are safer due to crash testing and air bags.
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