Coach House , opinions wanted

[Kampers]

Ok we are looking at some land near a big lake, we are thinking about developing a high end RV resort, there is a golf course near by, a couple of casinos within 30 min, a metropolitan area within 45 minutes away. We are thinking about selling or leasing the sites, there would be a covered area for your coach, approximately a 500 square foot living area ( bedroom, restroom, kitchen ) and maybe 200 foot outdoor living area, we would like to have jogging / walking/ biking trails, maybe a couple of ponds ( with fish ) a few picnic areas, maybe a pavilion, also the place would be gated. What do you guys think, is this something you would be interested in, thanks for all of your ideas and advice.

[saddlesore]

General location??

[Mr.Mark]

Everything depends on location. Good to see more 'Resort' building being considered!

So, yes, I would go if its near a place that I would like to visit.

Good luck!
Mark

[Kampers]

Originally Posted by saddlesore

General location??

Near lake Texoma in Texas, 45 minutes from North dallas.

[Just For Fun]

Originally Posted by Kampers

Ok we are looking at some land near a big lake, we are thinking about developing a high end RV resort, there is a golf course near by, a couple of casinos within 30 min, a metropolitan area within 45 minutes away. We are thinking about selling or leasing the sites, there would be a covered area for your coach, approximately a 500 square foot living area ( bedroom, restroom, kitchen ) and maybe 200 foot outdoor living area, we would like to have jogging / walking/ biking trails, maybe a couple of ponds ( with fish ) a few picnic areas, maybe a pavilion, also the place would be gated. What do you guys think, is this something you would be interested in, thanks for all of your ideas and advice.

Sounds inviting. We're in CA, but would like to live full time in what your place sounds like.

But PURCHASE not lease would be our preference.

[xkimo]

So with the phenomenal growth of the lifestyle we have seen a tremendous shortage in facilities. As the old adage says, “ you build and they will come. “
Yessir !

[Kampers]

Appreciate the feed back, we are in the very early stages of this venture, all ideas and suggestions are welcome, thanks.

[Isaac-1]

My only thought is the climate is not ideal, north Texas gets too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer for most people to consider it as a seasonal destination. Most DFW weekend guest would probably prefer a traditional lake house, or a standard RV site, not some hybrid with a structure on the site. I think more appealing for the region would be RV sites with outdoor living patios, outdoor kitchens, outdoor entertaining space, etc. Possibly with a small structure with small living area, laundry room with bathroom, etc.

[New2road]

You can't be everything to everyone, Identify your target market and that will guide you on your choices.


We built a 850 sq.' coach house (Large LR/Kitchen combo/ full bath/ cart garage) and have roughly 350 sq.' outside living space also (covered OD kitch, Hot tub, firepit) We are on golf course, with access to club and facilities.


The course, club, and mountains are the draw, nothing really close.


Works for us. Others may not be able to live without a bedroom or two.


Look at comparable weather locations and see what people are building. Tiki huts, casitas, port homes, etc.


best of luck.


j

[Kampers]

Originally Posted by Isaac-1

My only thought is the climate is not ideal, north Texas gets too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer for most people to consider it as a seasonal destination. Most DFW weekend guest would probably prefer a traditional lake house, or a standard RV site, not some hybrid with a structure on the site. I think more appealing for the region would be RV sites with outdoor living patios, outdoor kitchens, outdoor entertaining space, etc. Possibly with a small structure with small living area, laundry room with bathroom, etc.

You bring up some good points, the structure we were thinking about building was about half indoor and half outdoor living, 1 bedroom, bath, small kitchen with living area inside and out, total footprint for the structure would be about 500 square feet. We were thinking about building RV covers so the owners could store their coaches there when not on the road, thinking about a 12 x 50 cover with additional concrete parking for the toad or guest.

[Isaac-1]

I think RV covers can be a great idea, though it has to be done right, I store my coach in a non-insulated metal shed on the family ranch, and when it rains the noise is so loud in there that I can't hear myself think. There is also the aesthetics if you go cheap, see this new RV park in the hill country with covered parking https://heritageoaksrvpark.com/ while at the same time keeping in mind effects on pricing since you probably don't want to cross the line where a conventional lake house is cheaper than what you are building.



You probably also should do some thinking about what RV owner demographic you are trying to attract, as there seems to be a good bit of a divide out there separating the retiree crowd from the working age crowd, with this forum seemingly heavy on the retiree side. This is not to say that they can't coexist in an RV park, it just takes planing and understanding of the sometimes mutually exclusive preferences of both groups.


p.s. I have to wonder if wider might be better that way you could incorporate your outdoor living area, kitchen, day room, bathroom under one single roof. Perhaps 25x50 to 30x50 with the 14x50 RV port slab down one side (you want wider than 12), a 12x15 room at the front on the other, with a 15x35 patio area behind it. With proper design that 12x15 room could share a single wet wall / electrical wall down the patio side with the outdoor kitchen minimizing construction cost.

[Kampers]

Originally Posted by Isaac-1

I think RV covers can be a great idea, though it has to be done right, I store my coach in a non-insulated metal shed on the family ranch, and when it rains the noise is so loud in there that I can't hear myself think. There is also the aesthetics if you go cheap, see this new RV park in the hill country with covered parking https://heritageoaksrvpark.com/ while at the same time keeping in mind effects on pricing since you probably don't want to cross the line where a conventional lake house is cheaper than what you are building.



You probably also should do some thinking about what RV owner demographic you are trying to attract, as there seems to be a good bit of a divide out there separating the retiree crowd from the working age crowd, with this forum seemingly heavy on the retiree side. This is not to say that they can't coexist in an RV park, it just takes planing and understanding of the sometimes mutually exclusive preferences of both groups.


p.s. I have to wonder if wider might be better that way you could incorporate your outdoor living area, kitchen, day room, bathroom under one single roof. Perhaps 25x50 to 30x50 with the 14x50 RV port slab down one side (you want wider than 12), a 12x15 room at the front on the other, with a 15x35 patio area behind it. With proper design that 12x15 room could share a single wet wall / electrical wall down the patio side with the outdoor kitchen minimizing construction cost.

We were looking at some covers that were cantilevered, the support post are only on one side, it would keep the sun and rain off the coach unless the wind was blowing it sideways. one thing with that style is they use some type of fabric so the satellite dish will work, I think a metal roof would be better so no water could seep through it, could always have another dish mounted to the structure.

[Isaac-1]

That is true, also be aware satellite dish use seems to be in rapid decline as more and more people are moving to streaming services over cell hotspots, etc. My coach has a satellite dish on the roof thanks to a previous owner, and in the 4+ years I have owned the coach I have never even considered getting service for it. Instead I have upgraded to a smartTV and stream everything on Netflix, Hulu, YoutubeTV, etc. over an unlimited data cell wifi hotspot. Sure there are coverage gaps, particularly out west, but every year they are fewer and further between. In October 2019 we took a month long 3,000 mile trip from Louisiana to Utah and the Grand Canyon, and had fast enough 4G LTE data to stream TV all but 3 nights.

[Kampers]

Originally Posted by Isaac-1

That is true, also be aware satellite dish use seems to be in rapid decline as more and more people are moving to streaming services over cell hotspots, etc. My coach has a satellite dish on the roof thanks to a previous owner, and in the 4+ years I have owned the coach I have never even considered getting service for it. Instead I have upgraded to a smartTV and stream everything on Netflix, Hulu, YoutubeTV, etc. over an unlimited data cell wifi hotspot. Sure there are coverage gaps, particularly out west, but every year they are fewer and further between. In October 2019 we took a month long 3,000 mile trip from Louisiana to Utah and the Grand Canyon, and had fast enough 4G LTE data to stream TV all but 3 nights.

Very good info, thank you sir.