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Old 09-11-2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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Couple Problems, any advice would be appreciated

Problem 1:
the Onan 7Kw genset, when I got the MH, it ran for 16-20 mins (timed)
i disconnected the fuel line from the fuel pump to the fuel tank and replaced it with a longer hose and ran it into a gas can.
when cranking the gen over it would not start and bubbles would appear in the fuel jug, not a lot mind you but enough.
I wiped the hose and held it to my tongue to see if i could feel any suction, none was discernible.
so I figured I would get an electronic fuel pump from the parts store and place it in line, in place of the oem pump.
The unit would now stumble and only run if I manually worked the throttle linkagae, but die as soon as the button was released. I hooked a meter to the fuel pump and voltage was removed as soon as the start button was released.
I then noticed that there was a solenoid on the side of the oem fuel pump, figuring that it sensed pressure i ran the new pump in series with the oem.
same results. I now have the genset back to oem condition, and i can no longer get it to start, even moving the throttle linkage does not help. So i have made it worse, used to run then die after 16-20 min, now i cannot get it started.

Problem 2:
I have an hwh leveling system, it powers up, pressing the I button a second time is supposed to drop the jacks, but instead I get the battery indicator lighting up, i have tried it in the ACC position and while the coach is running. same results.

I have a trip to the IHRA Bracket finals in Rockingham, NC at the end of the month and would really like to get these issues solved,

Thank you again for your time and any assistance you may be able to provide.
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:26 AM   #2
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You should be able to get a blinking code from the start switch. It is a two part code & that will help trouble shoot. Here is a link to a manual http://www.cumminsonan.com/www/html/...s/983-0101.pdf

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Old 09-11-2011, 12:16 PM   #3
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Benningtonr, could you re-post with more info if possible. Year and model of coach and leveling system, gas or diesel . I just had to replace the main 40 amp fuse on my HWH due to corrosion in the fuse holder. Fuse was in line about 8" from the pump motor and is the main feed for the whole system.
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Old 09-11-2011, 02:39 PM   #4
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How much fuel is in the tank?
Most MH's have a fail-safe cut-off if the fuel tank is under 1/4 full. Keeps you from running out of gas sitting still with the generator running.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:22 PM   #5
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Do you have the parking brake on? On my coach, if the auto park brake on the dash is not engaged, the HWH levelers will not deploy. Also, your 12v house power switch must be "on".
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A little more to check out. If you coach is wired up for the levelers the same as mine, the HWH system takes it's operational power from the coach batteries, and a signal power feed from the Acc, side of the ignition switch. So the levelers will only power up with the engine off, ignition switch in Acc . If your getting a low batt warning, bad coach batteries or a poor connection, between the batteries and the pump/ control box is also a possibility.Even a bad ground at the batteries is a possibility.Gen set starting power is also from coach batteries, could be a common issue for both your problems.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:50 AM   #7
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Jacks are fixed, it was a contact problem on the batteries, I loosened the cables and retightened, it works like a champ now.

I have a 1992 Oshkosh chassis ford gas engine.
gen is a 7 NHM F A 26106 C
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The Onan Service manual for a "7 NHM F A 26106 C" is 965-0531B (http://www.cumminsonan.com/www/pdf/m.../965-0531B.pdf). You have a Spec C unit. You have to be real careful when using that manual as it covers several different versions. As such it can be confusing if you do not pay attention to the details. Translation: It will refer to things that may not be on your model (Spec #).
You do not have a computerized unit that provides fault codes.
The wiring diagram for yours is on page b-3.
You have the Electronic Governer control system version (page 7-8).
Spec C would not have the K4 fuel pump relay.
Troubleshooting (for your symptoms) starts on Page 7-16 & 17.
Sit down and read the Control section (7), the Ignition portion in Section 6, and the A-4 through A-6 troubleshooting protions. They all interract with each other.
Fuel pump pressure (page 6-29) is only 3.5-6PSI. Make sure you have > 1/4 tank of gas in the tank (prevents you from running tank dry so you can get to gas station). Clogged fuel filter can easily create problems.

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