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03-21-2007, 07:12 AM
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So does anyone out there have one? Do you like it? We're considering moving over to a toyhauler and from the floorplans the wife and I have seen so far, we like this the best. We haven't seen one in person yet tho.
For the most part we'll just be hauling around a street bike or two in the garage. I wonder how difficult the unloading process is on the ramp va a liftgate.. (One of the street bikes is a big BMW K1200LT, 800+lbs.) It seems like there would be a point at the bottom of the ramp where touching the ground while seated on the bike would be impossible.
Also, I was wondering if there was a viewing platform of some sort available for the roof?
Thanks for the replies.
-Jim K.
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03-21-2007, 07:12 AM
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So does anyone out there have one? Do you like it? We're considering moving over to a toyhauler and from the floorplans the wife and I have seen so far, we like this the best. We haven't seen one in person yet tho.
For the most part we'll just be hauling around a street bike or two in the garage. I wonder how difficult the unloading process is on the ramp va a liftgate.. (One of the street bikes is a big BMW K1200LT, 800+lbs.) It seems like there would be a point at the bottom of the ramp where touching the ground while seated on the bike would be impossible.
Also, I was wondering if there was a viewing platform of some sort available for the roof?
Thanks for the replies.
-Jim K.
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03-21-2007, 08:58 AM
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I'm not a potential owner, but I have seen them at shows. The rear ramp seems pretty steep. I'm not a motorcycle rider either though. So probably not much help...
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03-21-2007, 02:10 PM
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I looked at one when making out decision to sell our toyhauler. I just couldn't see myself climbing up and down those stairs or laying on the mattress on the floor unable to sit up in bed.
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03-22-2007, 06:06 AM
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Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. Did the ramp look about as steep as a typical fifth wheel toyhauler?
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03-22-2007, 06:13 AM
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Hi Y-guy, thanks for the response. I'm not really sure that we'll be happy with that either, but we really don't like the bed in the garage of some of the other toyhaulers we've seen. So, if you don't mind my asking, what kind of toyhauler did you have? And what prompted you to sell it? We are both pretty spoiled by the interior of the Journey we have now, and a lot of the toyhaulers decor are pretty utilitarian, which neither of us really likes. The Outlaw seems like a compromise between having a toyhauler and a decent decor at a reasonable price. But again, since I've not actually been inside one, I can only comment on the pictures.
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03-22-2007, 03:30 PM
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It definitely seemed steeper. I think the floor is quite a bit higher in the Outlaw than the typical 5th wheel style toyhauler.
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03-25-2007, 11:29 AM
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Hopefully I can answer some of these questions (along with a few extra comments), we took ownership of our Outlaw in February. We traded-in our Heartland Cyclone 5th wheel toyhauler, so I have experience with both mentioned here.
1. While I believe the garage is higher, the dove tail and longer ramp makes the angle comparible to our 5er.
2. I have a Victory Kingpin that I haul in back along with a lifted golf cart, both will fit nicely. Feet always able to touch the ground when pulling in the garage.
3. No viewing platform on the roof, in fact the Outlaw does not come with a ladder. Slide has an awning to keep the "stuff" off.
4. Driveability is amazing, I could never get the wife behind the wheel of the 5er, but she has already driven the Outlaw a couple of times.
5. The upstairs mattress is surprisingly comfortable and the stairs are not a problem.
Our main reason for the change was that the living space seems so much larger than the 5er because you get to include the cockpit as a part of that space. Plus all the other positive of having a motorhome.
I hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
Eric
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03-25-2007, 06:32 PM
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Ive seen at least 2 outlaws on the road or possibly the same one twice here in Colorado. K&C RV has one in stock and tempted me. It would be great for carrying our Dirt bikes as we are always goiung to Motocross tracks and racing. There is definitly a trade off copared to a regular MH with the reduced living space. My wife is'nt crazy about climbing the stairs to go to bed. We have stairs in our stick house and we don't like them either. But I do like the Outlaw.
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03-26-2007, 03:39 AM
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Could have been us in Colorado, we took the kids skiing for Spring Break and stayed in Breckenridge (Tiger Run) the week of the 12th.
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03-26-2007, 01:28 PM
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Thanks for the responses so far folks.
Eric, how has the first month of ownership been for you? Any build quality issues? Or just problems in general? As for the ramp, the LT has a seat height of about 30", I think you're Kingpin has a height of about 26". Would that extra 4" make much of a difference?
Thanks,
-Jim K.
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03-26-2007, 03:39 PM
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Jim,
We have had surprising few issues (as compared to our previous 5er). Most items we caught at the PDI except for an issue with the wallpaper border not sticking and some loose connections on the TV switch box. Nothing we could not fix ourselves.
I don't think the extra 4 inches would make a difference, of course you would have to take height into account as well (I am 6-1). Since you ride up the ramp shortly after your front wheel is on the ramp your feet will be there as well.
I hope this helps, happy hunting.
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03-27-2007, 07:12 AM
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Glad to hear the motorhome has been pretty much trouble free, hope that keeps up.
We are about the same height, so it's good to know the ramp isn't really an issue vs the lift. Still I think I'm going to try to test drive the ramp prior to a purchase.
The info provided by everyone is definitely helping.
Thanks again.
-Jim K.
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03-27-2007, 08:30 AM
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HERE is a link to the official Damon Outlaw web page.....Even has a virtual tour!
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