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Old 10-20-2016, 08:35 PM   #15
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Hell cummins sells additives lol
Cummins Filtration offers an array of fuel additive products to enhance the fuel system performance and support new emission standards. Changing regulations that have lead to the use of biodiesel blends and ULSD fuels have created unique maintenance needs across the globe. The addition of high quality fuel additives is now an important element in every good diesel engine maintenance program.




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^^^^^
All good business models include add-on, high margin revenue streams. It doesn't mean they are mandatory, only suggested.
"Nothing" is a very successful solution. Works for most folks.
YMMV
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:15 PM   #17
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Yep it's all fine till you get bad fuel or you have a v44 FIP . Then you'll wish you had some 911 or had added lube for your fuel injector pump. If you've never had algae in a diesel fuel tank I guess you don't need anything . I spent two days removing a fuel tank completely draining and cleaning algae out of it and replacing 4 fuel filters before I got the system cleaned out .... additive would have prevented it all.
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Nothing has worked better than Nothing for me.
My thoughts exactly. There are countless rigs operating on just the basics - fuel and air - that are going down the road reliably and performing well.
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What do you want an additive to do? For lubricity, this study has the answer.
Cummins began recommending a lubricity additive after the switch to ULSD diesel fuel.
As you see in the study results, some additives performed worse than the base-fuel used.
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Never seen a rig setting on the side of the road due to bad fuel ? I'll run it in mine backhoes, tractors, RV, and trucks till diesel is no longer burnt for fuel. Good luck with yours.
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The only additive I use is Biobor JF. It prevents microbe growth in diesel fuel which can cause very expensive repairs. 1oz to 80 gal of fuel is all that is required.
Me too. My tank had an algae infestation and clogged the fuel filter. I've been using Biobor the last six months and haven't had any more clogging.

A bottle to treat 1250 gallons cost about $16.
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My main concern according to my mechanic is to keep the injectors lubricated and from what I am reading that is just what this additive will do. Just ordered 6 bottles from Ryder on - line , they had the best price.
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My main concern according to my mechanic is to keep the injectors lubricated and from what I am reading that is just what this additive will do. Just ordered 6 bottles from Ryder on - line , they had the best price.
If you're concerned about lubricity, Walmart 2-stroke TCW-3 oil works great and is very cost effective. I add it at 100:1 along with PRI-D for "algae" control... Not sure it is algae but whatever that black crap is that can clog everything - did that dance once and don't want to do it again.

FYI the walmart 2 stroke is referenced in the study posted above.
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If you're concerned about lubricity, Walmart 2-stroke TCW-3 oil works great and is very cost effective. I add it at 100:1 along with PRI-D for "algae" control... Not sure it is algae but whatever that black crap is that can clog everything - did that dance once and don't want to do it again.

FYI the walmart 2 stroke is referenced in the study posted above.
Adding ANY kind of oil to the fuel for the 2010 compliant engines will very likely damage the expensive equipment that was added to meet EPA requirements. That fact is also "referenced in the study posted above".
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Adding ANY kind of oil to the fuel for the 2010 compliant engines will very likely damage the expensive equipment that was added to meet EPA requirements. That fact is also "referenced in the study posted above".
OP has a 2005.. Mine is in my sig(1995).
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This topic pops up about twice a year and a bunch of posters come on and tell how they don't need it in their diesel engine. Many are missing the point. The reason for using the additives, is to improve lubricity. If a few would take the time to read the report posted above, you'll see that many of the fuel companies are short changing the customer by NOT meeting lubricity standards on occasion.

Using an additive that adds lubricity, is a little insurance against poor fuel quality. And for those that say their engine manufacturer doesn't recommend anything, so they don't use anything......you would be wrong. Cummins now recommends using an additive for lubricity due to fuel not meeting lubricity standards.

If I knew every tank I purchased met the standards, I probably wouldn't use an additive, but the evidence brought out by the article is enough for me.
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OP has a 2005.. Mine is in my sig(1995).

Yes, I understand that. I was simply trying to point out that your suggestion to add oil is not appropriate for those who have 2010 and newer compliant engines.
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Show us where Cummins recommends additives.
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