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01-27-2019, 05:57 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Huasna Valley, CA
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Dometic Thermostat and Heat Pump problems
About 3 months ago I was boondocking in Panamint Valley. It was warm during the day and cold at night. One morning I fired up the generator and turned on the Thermostat to heat pump and set it to 70 and walked away. After about 3 mins of nothing coming on, the furnace (Oasis) fans came on in the front (zone 1)of the MH and the heat pump came on in the back (zone 2). I looked at the thermostat and checked the temperature inside the MH, zone 1 read 32f and zone 2 read 56f. It was about 44f outside. The thermostat for zone 1 was blinking from HP to Furn and back. Now I do know if it cold outside it will do this but I think the cutoff is 40f. Also why is zone 1 showing 32f? Looking through the manual for the thermostat, I found how to reset it. I went through the procedure and nothing changed.
I took it to my local dealer, when I got home, since I have an extended warranty. Dont get me started how long it took them to look at it. Anyway when they did and the manager claimed they did a reset (just like me) and all was working. They charged me $70 for this. I figured as long as it works. I went to pick it up. I got in the MH and decided to check. I fired up the generator and turned on the thermostat. IT WAS NOT FIXED! I walked back in to the manager and told him. He got a puzzled look on his face. I asked him to come check it. He sent a tech to look at with me. The tech #1 agreed it was not working correctly. Then we walked back in to the manager. Tech #1 told him it was not working. The manager wanted a second opinion (apparently tech #1 had only worked there 2 weeks so the manager did not trust him). Tech #2 got in and proceeded to tell me that is how it is suppose to work and there is nothing wrong with it. I was about to come unglued. I walked back into the mangers office and tech #2 would not come with me. The manager said he would have to call Dometic. I decided to leave it.
They called the next day to say it was fixed and that it was a bad plug. I drove down to pick it up. As I arrived they were driving it out so I could drive away. I got in and tech #1 was there looking puzzled. He said it is still having the problem. Then as we were standing there it started working correctly. Well since it was the wife's Bday the next week and we had plans, I decide I would just take it and deal with it. I told the tech I will bring it back and he agreed.
When we took it out it still had the same intermittent problem.
So I ask what would you do? Take it back to this dealer and hope tech #2 dosnt work on it or should I go someplace else?
Also has anyone ever had this problem before with a Dometic thermostat?
73
Kent
N6WT
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01-27-2019, 07:04 PM
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Absolutely find someplace else. I bought my rig and my extended warranty from a dealership, Darren Bideaux in Ogden Utah, and their service department was the WORSE. Two attempts and they sucked both times. One time, they left all the lights on, drained all the batteries to dead. In two weeks, they fixed NOTHING. Morons! So I fired them, and I'd advise you to do the same.
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01-28-2019, 04:36 AM
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I had an issue with a dometic thermostat showing 32 deg f inside, and it took months to troubleshoot.
Several RV repair people looked at it, and couldn't fathom it out.
I finally decided to look myself, and with the help of a guy on here, determined that it was the freeze sensor grounding out to the evaporator.
It had been pushed in too far, and the insulation was nicked. This problem first showed up when using the heat pump.
A quick fix if you are handy, the sensor is about 30 bucks.
May not be your problem, but it is worth checking.
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01-28-2019, 05:10 AM
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Did you get to do the loop?
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01-28-2019, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magredvet
I had an issue with a dometic thermostat showing 32 deg f inside, and it took months to troubleshoot.
Several RV repair people looked at it, and couldn't fathom it out.
I finally decided to look myself, and with the help of a guy on here, determined that it was the freeze sensor grounding out to the evaporator.
It had been pushed in too far, and the insulation was nicked. This problem first showed up when using the heat pump.
A quick fix if you are handy, the sensor is about 30 bucks.
May not be your problem, but it is worth checking.
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Yes I am handy! I also see we have the same year and make of coach. This gives me hope.
Where is the sensor located?
Kent
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01-28-2019, 06:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G jeffers
Did you get to do the loop?
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Loop?
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01-28-2019, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N6WT
Yes I am handy! I also see we have the same year and make of coach. This gives me hope.
Where is the sensor located?
Kent
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Not trying to butt in here, just help. The freeze sensor is normally pushed into the fins on the a/c condenser. The fins are sharp and can skin the insulation if not careful
Tom
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01-28-2019, 07:49 AM
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MoCoTom, is correct, it is pushed into the fins of the evaporator, and mine had the nicked insulation.
You need to remove the shroud, then remove the evap cover, and it is right in front of you, with white wires.
The wires plug into the board, which is on the side of the unit, under a sheetmetal cover.
Discharge the caps first, before going in there....
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01-28-2019, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magredvet
MoCoTom, is correct, it is pushed into the fins of the evaporator, and mine had the nicked insulation.
You need to remove the shroud, then remove the evap cover, and it is right in front of you, with white wires.
The wires plug into the board, which is on the side of the unit, under a sheetmetal cover.
Discharge the caps first, before going in there....
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01-28-2019, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N6WT
Loop?
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Yes, up pleasant canyon behind Ballarat, across South from Rogers pass to South Park and down South Park canyon. The Loop.
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02-03-2019, 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G jeffers
Yes, up pleasant canyon behind Ballarat, across South from Rogers pass to South Park and down South Park canyon. The Loop.
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Yes I have done that loop. How did you know??
Kent
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02-03-2019, 08:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magredvet
MoCoTom, is correct, it is pushed into the fins of the evaporator, and mine had the nicked insulation.
You need to remove the shroud, then remove the evap cover, and it is right in front of you, with white wires.
The wires plug into the board, which is on the side of the unit, under a sheetmetal cover.
Discharge the caps first, before going in there....
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So I took the lid off and discharged the cap (I hate getting shocked). I removed the freeze sensor and could see no evidence of the insulation being cut. I put everything back together. But now after doing this the thermostat is working correctly and the heat pump work also. Not sure what to think.
I will leave it for now and hope the problem does not come back.
Thanks for the help.
73
Kent
N6WT
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02-03-2019, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
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Yes I have done that loop. How did you know??
Kent
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Let's see...Jeep Ruby, boondocking in Panimint Valley, if you hadn't done it to you needed to haha! I've done it 20 or 30 times,I used to live in Trona. I live in Nevada now but still go back every year or so. Love Panimint.
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