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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
Goggle and READING are great tools for information
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Careful googling and mindful reading are great tools for information. Quick googling is problematic, as is cursory reading. And when you're talking about the internet, even careful reading of websites can be problematic because websites are full of misinformation.
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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
393.55 Subsection D 393.60 paragraph C 1, 2, 3 etc
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As I said, Title 49 Section 393.55 has to do with anti-lock brakes on commercial vehicles, so I don't know why it's being cited, never mind twice, in a discussion about cracked windshields.
Section 393.60 deals with windshields on commercial vehicles. At least it's actually about windshields and not anti-lock brakes,
but it has nothing to do with RVs.
Section 393.1 says:
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The rules in this part establish minimum standards for commercial motor vehicles as defined in § 390.5 of this title. Only Motor vehicles (as defined in § 390.5) and combinations of motor vehicles which meet the definition of a commercial motor vehicle are subject to the requirements of this part.
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The website you quoted and linked to, crackedwindshieldlaws.com, just says there are federal regulations pertaining to cracks in windshields on people's cars, but doesn't provide a citation to the law. Maybe they don't understand that Section 393.60 applies only to commercial vehicles, but if that's the case, that's a significant error.
Or maybe they know of a federal law I haven't been able to find, but I did a search of the entire Code of Federal Regulations for anything that has both the word "windshield" and "crack" in it, and I got 10 results, with none of them saying anything about windshield cracks in passenger vehicles.
https://www.ecfr.gov/search?search%5...w=hierarchical
The crackedwindshieldlaws.com website does sometimes say a state's law doesn't mention cracked windshields but prohibits obscured vision, and crackedwindshieldlaws.com interprets that to include cracks, so maybe there's a federal law about
obscured vision in passenger vehicles. So I searched the CFR for anything with the word "windshield" and "obscure" and again, nothing.
https://www.ecfr.gov/search?search%5...w=hierarchical
I'm finding no federal law governing cracked windshields on passenger vehicles or RVs, and definitely no federal law requiring owners of passenger vehicles or RVs to fix cracked windshields because they are considered a structural component, as one poster claimed. (As authority, he said, "google it.")
Finally, as it happens I'm currently working with a state's Department of Public Safety and was talking to a guy in the motor carrier compliance section. I told him there was a discussion going on about federal laws pertaining to cracked windshields on RVs, and he said the laws are for commercial vehicles.
I said no, people are claiming there are federal laws pertaining to cracked windshields on RVs, and he said there aren't--the federal laws cover commercial vehicles only. He said state laws cover cracks in windshields on passenger vehicles, but that he hadn't been on patrol in a long time and doesn't remember what they are. He never had any sort of federal law to enforce on windshields on non-commercial vehicles.
If crackedwindshieldlaws.com decides to specify where they're getting their information, and if it checks out, I'll be happy to stand corrected, and I'll let this state trooper know, too. But as you can see, it's a million times easier to show that a law exists than to show that an alleged law doesn't exist, which is why the burden should be on those who say there's a law--just give the citation and there you have it. (As long as the citation is correct, of course, but at least give people the law you THINK applies.)
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