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08-24-2012, 02:31 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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F53 Chassis - 40'' Motorhome
I'm thinking of buying a new Newmar Canyon Star 3911 coach (handicapped modified). I'm concerned that the Ford engine, transmission & chassis will be overly stressed. Any thoughts?
Newmar only builds their accessible coaches on a Ford & 40 feet long.
Thanks for any advise.
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Jim & Shirley & Abbie (Scottish Terrier)
2013 Newmar Canyon Star 3911, 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan - Braun Accessibility Modified Toad, Remco Lube Pump, 5 Star Tune, Progressive Industries EMS-HW50C, Coach Net Emergency Road Service, FMCA 378968
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08-24-2012, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim T.
I'm thinking of buying a new Newmar Canyon Star 3911 coach (handicapped modified). I'm concerned that the Ford engine, transmission & chassis will be overly stressed. Any thoughts?
Newmar only builds their accessible coaches on a Ford & 40 feet long.
Thanks for any advise.
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It moves my 36' effortlessly and Bounder also makes a 38 or 39 and haven't heard of any issues.
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08-24-2012, 03:01 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Knowing Newmar they wouldn't build a rig now that was "overstressed". In previous years, yes they would and did. Our DSDP is a perfect example, but they stood up and fixed it.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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08-24-2012, 03:41 PM
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Ford builds the F53 chassis for GVWRs of 16,000 lbs to 26,000 lbs. The V10 engine has plenty of power for any of these, but it is thirsty. I wouldn't worry about the coach or engine being overstressed.
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Duncan, 2014 Canyon Star 3610
2014 Honda CRV, wife and cat
Florida and South Carolina
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08-24-2012, 03:52 PM
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Just watch the total weight with all your stuff, water, and see what's left over if you ever intend to tow. That's a big coach for a gas motor.
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08-24-2012, 03:52 PM
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The power is not an issue. As length increases, the rear end ratio increases. According to my Ford brochure This coach will have a 6.17 ratio rear end. It will use more fuel.
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1998 Pace Arrow 35 ft. F53 Ford V10 2014 Honda CRV toad
32 years mechanic at Delta Air Lines 15 year motorhome service manager. 3 popups....2 travel trailers....5 motorhomes....loved them all.
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08-24-2012, 04:15 PM
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The lower powered, 310hp v10 does OK with our 2000 38' coach so you shouldn't have any problems. You won't go blazing up 7%+ grades but it'll get you over the summit.
Good luck with your new coach and safe travels...
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2000 Residency 3790 v10 w/tags 5 Star tune & Banks system Suzuki XL7 toad
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08-24-2012, 05:07 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I have the first generation V10 in my '99 35 footer and always pull a 16' 4000lb trailer. Absolutley no problems and I can run 75-80 mph if I wanted to. Average 7.5 mpg @ 62-65mph.
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08-24-2012, 06:40 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Unfortunatly, the Ford (albeit a good foundation) is the only gas powered chassis currently being used in most all mfgt's, so a better question might be; "I want to get a nice motorhome with Handicapped Access...so, should I get the "affordable" Canyon Star or should I bite the bullet for a Diesel Rig."
You can be sure that the mfgt's will install the correct GVWR chassis for the load.
Best of luck!!
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08-24-2012, 07:22 PM
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On level roads it will do great step grades and mountain roads that v-10 will be screaming but it will make it I had a 2004 v-10 37 ft MH.
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08-24-2012, 07:39 PM
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Speaking as one who has owned two V10s and the current one is 38ft and weighs 25780 with toad and all the gear, it has more than enough power. Did ad the five star tune to adjust trans shift points and that works great. Have no fear the v10 will do everything you need to do.
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08-25-2012, 10:46 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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37' coach here with a 5000 lb. toad - V10 works well.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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08-25-2012, 08:28 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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The V-10 has plenty of power and you will be impressed with the 5 speed transmission. Mine will turn 5 grand on a 9% grade but it holds 55mph Its a little louder but not as much as one would think. The motor is made to run and does a good job of it.
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08-29-2012, 05:05 PM
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Just got back form Bristol TN for the third time in our Suncruiser with v10. Now that I am more comfortable with mountains I set the cruise at the posted speed and i walked right by DP on the climb up even some power stroke fifthwheelers. I am very impressed with V10 power makes me wonder why people go to DP
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