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Old 09-07-2020, 08:26 AM   #1
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Fire Extinguisher Placement

In a fire situation, first and foremost is to get out and then see what can be done about the coach.


I have the standard ABC fire extinguisher that was factory supplied in our Tiffin Phaeton, which is located next to the passenger seat. A few years ago I bought a set of four fire extinguishers for out prior gas coach from Mac the Fire Guy that included three small hand held units and one 5 lb unit. All are foam extinguishers. I am trying to figure out the best placement, especially for the 5 lb unit. Not sure what my biggest risk is, but I am thinking cook stove is first and diesel/chassis second. I have my three small units in the living area so they are quickly accessible for the stove or if we are trying to get out the door in a fire. I am thinking the 5 lb unit might be best placed in an outside compartment for a fire that can't be accessed from inside the coach.



Looking to see where others have placed their fire extinguishers and the logic behind their location.
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I replaced the OEM 2 pounder by the door with a 5 pound one, wanted to use a 10 pound but couldn't get it mounted in a way so it wouldn't interfere with the steps or the seat.

In the bedroom I was able to get a 10 pound one mounted on the wire storage shelve that I have in a closet. Zipped tied the mounting bracket to it and it has lasted about a year with no problems. Breaker and fuse panels are in bedroom.

I would have mounted one in the kitchen but I have yet to figure out where to mount one that it wouldn't be getting hit or in the way of something.

I have one in my outside compartment, next to where my inverter is at.

Every month on the first I shake all extinguishers and test smoke alarms and propane detector.
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I left the small one by the entry door to be used primarly for stove fires, then bought a large (don't remember the size) dry chemical for the bedroom. I have three photoelectric-type smoke detectors, one in the cockpit area, one in the kitchen, and one in the bedroom.

My thinking is that if a fire starts at night, with that many detectors I will have an early warning and can grab the big extinguisher in the bedroom and hopefully knock the fire down on the way out the door!
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I recently posted about the fire extinguisher I was adding to the 5 I already carry. Many felt it was foolish to fight a fire...get out, let it burn as that’s why you have insurance. If the fire is fully engulfed that’s good advice but if not I’ll expend all 6 if necessary to put it out...OK, only 4 as the 2 liquid one on the kitchen counter are so small I’ll probably not use them for a serious fire. If you do not have training in fighting fires, getting out is probably best.

I located mine: A 2 liter foam on each side of the fuel tank as those doors do no lock. Left the messy 1A-10BC by the door...probably last to use. The 2 small liquid/gas on either end of the kitchen counter. Have 3.5 lb Halon besides the driver’s seat and beside my side of the bed. The 9 lb Halon I added in the bedroom for a engine fire is the one that solicited “get out and let it burn” comments. Here is that post: https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/eng...et-495328.html
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On most bed setups, there is a box with a platform over it. Typically, alongside the bed, near the headboard, is a dead area. I found this to be a good place to install a 5 pound extinguisher, on my side of the bed.

In the event of a fire that traps you in the bedroom area, you can at least try to fight it while using the escape window. I found the extinguisher fit well alongside the bed of my 2014 Dutch Star and was easy to access.

On newer Newmars, like my 2019, Newmar now installs a 3/4 size escape door in the bathroom of all their coaches. On my 2019, I'm more concerned with fire in the basement bays...amongst all the electronics, so I have a smoke detector in the main bay with an automatic unit near the inverter and an automatic unit in the engine bay.
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Another member turned me on to the “Fire Balls” so I bought a $90 one. Only 4” in diameter with 3 lbs of dry ABC chemical. Demo shows flames have to get to it so mounted on the side of the engine’s compartment wall where all the fuel is... will buy a 2nd one for over the turbo for a turbo oil fire. Hopefully we will hear the 100 dB sound it puts out when it explodes. $180 is pretty cheap insurance.

I did check on the temps in the engine area and 200 F is as hot as it got. Still need to install the 325 degree red light on the dash.
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OEM by door which is in kitchen area if small stove top fire otherwise we are getting out!

Dry Chemical one in Living Room area so we can fight our way to door

Dry Chemical one in Bedroom by escape window so we can get out
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I put as big of a extinguisher as I can handle by the bedroom door. I figure I’m not going out the escape window so I’ll grab it and use it to escape.
2nd one is in an unlocked front bay on the drivers side.
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OEM one is by the entry door. We have 1 large & 3 smaller ones from Mac. The large one is in a rear outdoor bay somewhat near the engine compartment. 1 small one is under the kitchen sink (adjacent to the stove), 1 small one is in an overhead compartment above our bed & the other small one is in the master bath in a drawer close to the washer/dryer.

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Congratulations to all those that purchased 3 smaller foam extinguishers and 1 large foam extinguisher. They are far superior to the dry powder units that RV manufacturers equip new rigs with (to save a few bucks). Please consider upgrading to foam fire extinguishers if you still rely on the factory installed extinguishers.



I have my large extinguisher just inside the entrance door. The three smaller units are in the galley, bedroom, and toad vehicle. All the best.
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Here's a reminder: If you have the OEM ones, remember to shake them periodically. Turn 'em upside down & bang on the bottom. The contents settle over time & if that emergency comes where you need to use it, it won't work. I learned that from Mac at one of his seminars.

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Something I don't understand. It seems many folks put fire extinguishers near what they expect to be the source of the fire, engine bays, electronics bays, kitchens, outside of the living space etc. In my world, admittedly a somewhat unusual one, you would want to put fire extinguisher where they would be least likely to be near a fire so you could retrieve them in the event of a fire. Another thing to maybe think about is CO2 fire extinguishers. I know they're not rated for flammable materials fires like wood, paper and so forth because they may leave an ember to restart the fire. I am aware of that, but I am also aware of what kind of damage the dry powder fire extinguishers do. It will corrode beyond use almost any metal in comes in contact with. My solution is to use the CO2 extinguisher to put out the immediate fire and then use a spray bottle to put out any remaining embers. The CO2 is non-toxic, unlike some of the other extinguishers and does no damage to other things it comes in contact with. That said, they're not cheap. I think the cheapest one I found was $250 but they also don't settle like dry powder. I dunno does this makes sense or not?
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All good and interesting information. One thing I did with my Newmar that I no longer have was to open the escape window at least twice a year and dust the seal with baby powder so it wouldn't stick. The first time I opened it after purchase it took a good five minutes to get it open (non-panic situation) because I thought it would break. It ended up ripping the foam seal all the way around it was stuck so bad. So anyone with a recent coach purchase should also check the emergency window to make sure it works and make some wood props to hold it open while you crawl through and have an old bed roll to put over the sill. On our new to us Tiffin, the window opens easily, but I need to verify my wood props I made for the Newmar work on the Tiffin.
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OEM by door which is in kitchen area if small stove top fire otherwise we are getting out!

Dry Chemical one in Living Room area so we can fight our way to door

Dry Chemical one in Bedroom by escape window so we can get out
That's pretty close to what we do. The (useless) OEM is at the entry steps. A small "aerosol" extinguisher is in a drawer next to the stove. A 5-lb'er is in the center closet and a 5-lb'er is in the rear bath.

We have the combo glass smasher/seat belt cutter at each seat that has a belt and one in the bedroom to make short order of the large window at the very rear and also the emergency exit window. The manufacturer claims that large rear window does not open but the hammer says otherwise.

A fire that has burned for any length of time in an RV is going to be one where I do not care if dry chemical extinguishing agent is used because it's going to be an insurance claim anyway.

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