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09-22-2022, 02:58 PM
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 98
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Flaking Fake Leather on Flexsteel Furniture
Had sofa and captain/passenger chairs recovered. See photos before and after. Bauer RV Upholstery, Dubuque, IA 563-542-4902. All completed in 24 hours while hooked up at the facility. Personable, competent, professional folks. 5% discount for cash or check.
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09-22-2022, 03:02 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: On the continental divide
Posts: 2,622
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Yup, she took over from Flexsteel, and bailed me out big time............
Mike in Colorado
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2004 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37c, 8.1 gasser, (Jezebel) Ultra RV ECM / TCM, plugs wires, and rear track bar, PPE deep Tx pan w/ temp gage, Bilstein's, Sailun's & Sumo's all round, pushed by a 2002 Grand Caravan, on a Master Tow Dolly OR a WR-250 on a rail.
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09-22-2022, 04:35 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 24,115
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Looks very nice.
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Don & Mary
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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09-22-2022, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Florida panhandle
Posts: 1,235
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great recovery…..pun intended 
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2018 Adventurer 19RD 19’ 11”
Ford E350 V10 Cutaway Chassis Class C
#10050 GVWR, #18500 GCWR Smoke that!
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09-22-2022, 05:03 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NorCA
Posts: 79
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I just ordered two skin sets for both captain chairs in my 2007 Pace Arrow from the Bauers. Anxious to see how they spruce up the old girl.
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2005 Pace Arrow 37C, our 3rd Fleetwood.
2007 Pace Arrow 33V, our 4th Fleetwood.
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09-23-2022, 03:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: North Ridgeville, OH
Posts: 2,455
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Sure makes a big difference! And well worth it as you have a nice rig! Enjoy!
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Retired but busier than ever!
2012 Newmar Bay Star 3302
5 Star Tune, SumoSprings, Roadmaster Steering Stabilizer, Blue Ox Avail
Brake Buddy, 2015 Chevy Malibu
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09-23-2022, 06:59 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cedar Falls, IA
Posts: 2,231
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I assume you have a Tiffin. Tiffin was giving the skins for free to affected people for at least 4 or 5 years after purchase. You had to find someone to install them, but that cost us a lot less than having entire pieces reupholstered. I am not saying anything bad about Lisa; she has a great reputation and really helps people out, but letting Tiffin owners in this circumstance know there are additional options.
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09-24-2022, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,954
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And that is exactly why Flexsteel closed their RV industry business.
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2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD , ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG 11B5MX,Infantry retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA. " My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy
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09-25-2022, 05:43 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,029
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We have a 2019 Red 340. No peeling…..yet. Did they ever change and improve their methods/materials before discontinuing the business, or should I expect the same outcome for my FlakeSteel furniture?
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2019 Allegro Red 340 33AL;2020 Jeep GC Limited
Part Timers-Looking Fwd to being Anytimers
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09-25-2022, 05:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 834
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Yes it sucks this is happenning. I went thru it too. I recovered all the furniture in my coach because of it.
Just an fyi. The leather isn’t fake. It’s actually pretty nice leather. The problem came from flex steel gluing the leather to that fabric backing. The glue dried the leather to the point that it would crack and flake off the backing. This was done because you didn’t need as thick a piece of leather with the backing as you would need without. It was cost savings gone awry.
I believe the problem/process was fixed somewhere around 2016/2017, but I could be off.
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2012 32’ Tiffin Breeze
2007 29’ Winnebago Aspect (Sold)
1983 35’ Bluebird Wanderlodge (Sold)
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09-25-2022, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cedar Falls, IA
Posts: 2,231
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hpozzuoli
I believe the problem/process was fixed somewhere around 2016/2017, but I could be off.
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I had this happen to my rig’s furniture, sold in June 2018, and built that spring. I don’t think the process was fixed until 2020 or so.
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09-25-2022, 07:47 AM
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Community Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hpozzuoli
Yes it sucks this is happenning. I went thru it too. I recovered all the furniture in my coach because of it.
Just an fyi. The leather isn’t fake. It’s actually pretty nice leather. The problem came from flex steel gluing the leather to that fabric backing. The glue dried the leather to the point that it would crack and flake off the backing. This was done because you didn’t need as thick a piece of leather with the backing as you would need without. It was cost savings gone awry.
I believe the problem/process was fixed somewhere around 2016/2017, but I could be off.
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FlexSteel doesn’t make the fabrics or coverings….they use whatever the coach builder specified. The problem came from coach builders specifying cheaper coverings instead of the tried and proven “ultraLeather” (which is a patented and trademarked covering made by ultra fabrics corporation)
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09-25-2022, 10:11 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Jose, Ca, USA
Posts: 2,698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pasdad1
FlexSteel doesn’t make the fabrics or coverings….they use whatever the coach builder specified. The problem came from coach builders specifying cheaper coverings instead of the tried and proven “ultraLeather” (which is a patented and trademarked covering made by ultra fabrics corporation)
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EXACTLY! It's nothing more than cost savings - shall we use Ultraleather, at over $70 a yard, or use bonded leather, at about $20 a yard?
The Ultraleather in our 2007 Bounder still looks great 15 years, and 50,000 miles, down the road...
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Alan Hepburn - San Jose, Ca
2007 Bounder 35E being pushed by a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Sport S or a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JLU) Sport S
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09-25-2022, 11:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,954
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hpozzuoli
Yes it sucks this is happenning. I went thru it too. I recovered all the furniture in my coach because of it.
Just an fyi. The leather isn’t fake. It’s actually pretty nice leather. The problem came from flex steel gluing the leather to that fabric backing. The glue dried the leather to the point that it would crack and flake off the backing. This was done because you didn’t need as thick a piece of leather with the backing as you would need without. It was cost savings gone awry.
I believe the problem/process was fixed somewhere around 2016/2017, but I could be off.
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Flexsteel used Haloleather, made by Fabric Services, for a time, and was the cause of this problem. It was not genuine leather.
Some former Flexsteel employees formed a re-covering company and are currently re-covering the RV furniture that RV mfgrs. ordered covered with Haloleather.
reference: https://www.technomadia.com/2021/12/...oleather-fail/
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