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11-27-2016, 05:54 PM
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11-27-2016, 06:00 PM
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11-27-2016, 06:46 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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Sounds like it lost throttle info in the ECU. I would try to find a shop that can perform a throttle re-learn.
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11-27-2016, 06:49 PM
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Thor Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Originally Posted by ransil
Pull codes
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Without the fault codes there's no telling what's wrong. Staring with model year 2006 the throttle is fly-by-wire and if the engine management system isn't happy, for any number of reasons, you're not going anywhere soon.
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11-27-2016, 10:27 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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$25-30.00 will get you a code reader to check out logged codes . Then you will have a better idea of the problem.
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11-28-2016, 05:58 AM
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So I hooked up a code reader and got 2 codes. P2112 and P2104. I took off the intake and the throttle moves when the engine is off with the Key in the accessories position. So so I guess that's good that the throttle works. I am thinking maybe a bad throttle position sensor based on the codes. I could order a new sensor for around $75 and install it myself and clear the codes and hopefully be up and running again. We cancelled a camping trip this week already because of this mess. The Ford dealer is backed up with 6 other coaches and he said that he would not be able to get to it for at least 2 weeks.
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11-28-2016, 07:18 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Check RockAuto for your parts...
I Googled the error codes, there seems to be a lot of throttle body issues with this code. Rock Auto has a reman throttle body for $140.
Read through this thread - Its a class C but has same V10 engine.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f23/2005-...te-172272.html
Interesting - Scroll down to post #17......
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11-28-2016, 08:50 AM
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Mikey, I would call around to repair shops to see if they would work on it. The V10 was in quite a few Fords, 3/4 ton pickups, vans, and navigators. Truck repair would be a good option. Don't limit yourself to just Ford dealers. This problem is not just limited to MHs.
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11-28-2016, 10:02 AM
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Thor Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Post #17 was mine. Throttle motor was actually jammed which made it pretty easy to figure out. With the engine off it took a bit of effort to move the throttle body butterflies. Still running fine three years after a driveway repair.
When you power up, but before the engine starts, the throttle will do a self test which includes commanding it to full open and back to closed. If the feed back is other than what the system expected it will drop the throttle to idle only which is what mine did.
If your code reader can do a continuous update of the throttle position it's pretty easy to check it, even with the engine off but powered applied. P2112 is the fault while P2104 is advisory.
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12-01-2016, 04:53 PM
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Codes
I put a code reader on and it gave me 2 codes. P2104 and P2112. I'm done messing with it and risking further damage. I have tried all the things you guys have suggested and I thank you for the guidance. A hard lesson learned. Don't mess with the battery if you don't know exactly what you are doing. These new engines are no longer plug and play like the good ole days. So, It is getting towed to the Ford dealer next week. I will post the outcome and cost of damages so everyone else will know what they will be up against if they decide to disconnect the chassis battery or replace it themselves.
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12-01-2016, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikey1011
I put a code reader on and it gave me 2 codes. P2104 and P2112. I'm done messing with it and risking further damage. I have tried all the things you guys have suggested and I thank you for the guidance. A hard lesson learned. Don't mess with the battery if you don't know exactly what you are doing. These new engines are no longer plug and play like the good ole days. So, It is getting towed to the Ford dealer next week. I will post the outcome and cost of damages so everyone else will know what they will be up against if they decide to disconnect the chassis battery or replace it themselves.
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Definitely will be looking forward to that update. Good luck man.
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12-02-2016, 01:44 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Somewhere on the Ford Chassis Forum I read that depressing the throttle down to any extent while starting will reset the throttle position sensor. I have not been able to find the post.
If you are in the habit of putting your foot on the throttle when starting, don't. IMHO it would be worth a try to restart your engine being sure not to touch the throttle and leave it run a few minutes to see if it relearns before depressing the throttle. Just changing the battery will cause a relearn period, but should not cause what you are experiencing.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckBBAS/non-html/Q130.pdf
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12-02-2016, 12:59 PM
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I have heard of this happening before, although I recently replaced my starting battery in my 07 Sea Breeze / 06 chassis and had no issue. I wish I could remember the where I read the solution? It involved re-setting or replacing the ECM.
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12-02-2016, 01:31 PM
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I've got manual battery disconnect (like the one in the pic below) on the negative side of my chassis battery. It's been used probably a 100 times at least. No effect on the engine.
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