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08-17-2021, 10:07 PM
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Ford V10 vs. New V8
Looking for some feedback from members who may of had both. Having real world feedback is valuable. Wondering whether the new V8 performs better, power wise on the class A's. Shopping for class A gas and looking at new & used. Currently have V10 in class c, seems to work to hard, wondering if any better in class A. Considering 2019 thru 2022's. Thanks
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08-18-2021, 12:18 AM
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The v10 doesn’t work too hard, it likes to rev.
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08-18-2021, 05:27 AM
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I’ve driven several v10 motorhomes and purchased the new V8. Here’s my take based on that experience. The V8 is a definite improvement over the v10, but it’s more incremental than revolutionary. The V8 has a more robust low RPM torque curve so it pulls a bit better without downshifting. For example, my rig runs around 29,500lbs CGWR with my tow car. It pulled the rolling hills on I-71 between Louisville and Cincinnati in top gear, so long as I was going about 70mph (2800RPM). Below that speed there wasn’t enough torque available and a downshift was required. The V8 has a little more peak power available (350 vs. 320) and seems to deliver a little better fuel economy. I also tolerate the sound better, v10s are rather dissonant.
The chassis improvements on the V8 might be more valuable than the engine. The ride and driving experience are much improved as well.
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08-18-2021, 05:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenmacs
Looking for some feedback from members who may of had both. Having real world feedback is valuable. Wondering whether the new V8 performs better, power wise on the class A's. Shopping for class A gas and looking at new & used. Currently have V10 in class c, seems to work to hard, wondering if any better in class A. Considering 2019 thru 2022's. Thanks
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Bear in mind that your class C has the 2-valve V-10 while later model class A units have the 3-valve. The 3-valve has more HP and torque. We had a class C followed by a class A, and I immediately noticed that the class A performed better even though it was heavier.
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08-18-2021, 08:57 AM
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I drove 2022 and was impressed with the handling of the chassis wasn't able to really test the motor on hills. The feedback helps greatly. Thanks
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08-18-2021, 04:58 PM
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It depends on the year, but the specs on my 2011 F53 say 362hp on the 3valve V10. There have been several widely publicized issues with the new chassis. Spark plug wire failures and differential failures. Ford will sort it all out, but I will give it another year or so before I trade up.
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08-18-2021, 07:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teamfoxy
It depends on the year, but the specs on my 2011 F53 say 362hp on the 3valve V10. There have been several widely publicized issues with the new chassis. Spark plug wire failures and differential failures. Ford will sort it all out, but I will give it another year or so before I trade up.
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Yeah, the v10 was 362HP but got turned down to 320 around 2015ish. Supposedly due to a change in the way emissions compliance was measured, but I don’t know any specifics. The 7.3 makes 350HP meeting the same standards. And there’s tremendous potential in the 7.3 - 5Star has a tune for it that takes it to 478HP and 618lb-ft - on 87 octane.
The plug wires are fixed on current production engines. And not a big deal even if the engine has the first generation wires. You get a misfire, you replace the wires. Ford will do it under warranty, or if you don’t want to wait for a fault, a set of wires is just over $100 and can be replaced through the wheel wells in 10 minutes or so. BTDT, not that big a deal.
The rear axle problem is fixed too. The new chassis uses the exact same part as the old, so it will be just as reliable, noisy, and heavy. The factory just didn’t fill with enough lubricant. The factory corrected their error in February 2021. Ford will replace the wheel bearings on anything manufactured earlier under recall. Ford says to keep driving it until the recall is done (parts are slow).
I don’t see any reason to avoid the new chassis. Some teething problems, but nothing really bad.
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08-19-2021, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow5501
Yeah, the v10 was 362HP but got turned down to 320 around 2015ish. Supposedly due to a change in the way emissions compliance was measured, but I don’t know any specifics. The 7.3 makes 350HP meeting the same standards. And there’s tremendous potential in the 7.3 - 5Star has a tune for it that takes it to 478HP and 618lb-ft - on 87 octane.
The plug wires are fixed on current production engines. And not a big deal even if the engine has the first generation wires. You get a misfire, you replace the wires. Ford will do it under warranty, or if you don’t want to wait for a fault, a set of wires is just over $100 and can be replaced through the wheel wells in 10 minutes or so. BTDT, not that big a deal.
The rear axle problem is fixed too. The new chassis uses the exact same part as the old, so it will be just as reliable, noisy, and heavy. The factory just didn’t fill with enough lubricant. The factory corrected their error in February 2021. Ford will replace the wheel bearings on anything manufactured earlier under recall. Ford says to keep driving it until the recall is done (parts are slow).
I don’t see any reason to avoid the new chassis. Some teething problems, but nothing really bad.
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Didn't know about the 5 Star tuner. If thats true that would make a major difference in the performance of the MH. I have the 5 star on my V10, but really didn't notice much difference. Thanks!
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