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10-18-2013, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ciderdog
In addition to entrance and exit the concern I have with buying diesel at a gas station is the possibility the diesel may be a bit old, algae, or dirty. When you fill at a truck stop you are pretty much guaranteed fresh fuel. Probably not a real concern unless you hit the wrong station. Just my thought.
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Have not had that issue.
Local folks have often told me they buy a lot of diesel at the regular stations for their trucks and RVs just to beat the P/FJ or T/A pricing.
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10-18-2013, 08:07 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Originally Posted by t55watson
I buy fuel @ Murphy USA (Walmart). Buy a gift card @ Wally and save $.03/gal use a wally credit card and save $.06/gal.
Some don't have diesel but I do a web search, they have a site, to find one that has diesel and google street view to check access.
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I do this also. When I am at the pump I go to the service window and prepay about what I need sometimes just a flat 500.00 if i am low. My coach has a 150 gallon tank. Whatever the actual amount is on the pump is what I am charged on the card. I could do the multiple swipes but for a diesel 75.00 is only a little less than 20 gallons. If you are at 1/4 tank for me that is still about 115 gallons of diesel and 6 swipes of the card. Is much easier to prepay. I have started paying cash at some of the truck stops because of the high premium to use a card. Normally i underestimate the amount of fuel I need and when it stops if I am not full not a big thing. The one time I overestimated the clerk gave me my cash refund with no problem.
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10-18-2013, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by phranc
with diesel and at the truck pumps, the Pilot Flying J card will allow you to pump whatever you need . Does that work the same at the gas/diesel RV islands ? If so, that may give you another option for fuel
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In a word yes I have yet to have a pump shut down at flying j
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10-18-2013, 09:47 PM
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OP mentioned a trip from Texas to Indiana. Just went thru Indiana and they have the stupidest laws on diesel purchases. Unless you have a DOT or ICC number you can not fuel at the truck islands. We were forced to use the dinky car islands and we're 64' long with toad.
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10-19-2013, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1ciderdog
In addition to entrance and exit the concern I have with buying diesel at a gas station is the possibility the diesel may be a bit old, algae, or dirty. When you fill at a truck stop you are pretty much guaranteed fresh fuel. Probably not a real concern unless you hit the wrong station. Just my thought.
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I used to think that myself until I fueled my Ram diesel pulling a fifth wheel at a truck stop a few years ago. I got less than two miles before the water warning light kicked on. I changed fuel filters four times getting to a Dodge dealer because of the crap in it. I showed the filters to the station and to their credit they told me to get it fixed and send them the bill. They were aware they had an issue and were in the process of getting it fixed but a few of us were caught in it before they got all the tanks fixed. The fuel tank and complete fuel system had to be taken out cleaned and reinstalled. Not a cheap fix but what else can you do.
Alan
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10-19-2013, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TerryO
OP mentioned a trip from Texas to Indiana. Just went thru Indiana and they have the stupidest laws on diesel purchases. Unless you have a DOT or ICC number you can not fuel at the truck islands. We were forced to use the dinky car islands and we're 64' long with toad.
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I live in Indiana. I've been refused service at truck pumps only at Love's truck stops. Flying J, T/A, and smaller truck stops have always allowed me to buy fuel at truck pumps. You do have to go inside, leave your CC for them to turn on the pump. At payment time they add the Federal fuel taxes to pump price, which the tax-exempt price. That is the "stupid" part, IN allows stations to advertise the tax-exempt price on signage, and in very small print state "tax-exempt".
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10-19-2013, 06:04 PM
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Never been refused either but wonder if Indiana still makes you pay cash on the toll road. I will go from Chicago to Indy to get to VA rather than run it.
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10-19-2013, 06:23 PM
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This evening Diesel was like 4.30 to gas about 3.49 where I'm at.. Major hit in the wallet.
If the card cuts off at $75 or 100 or whatever (The station always says that it is the card company but truth is it is the station that sets the limit, not the card company, not the state, but the station or the company that owns it (The station that is))
Just swipe the card again and keep on pumping.
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10-19-2013, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Passin Thru
Never been refused either but wonder if Indiana still makes you pay cash on the toll road. I will go from Chicago to Indy to get to VA rather than run it.
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Can't remember if it was a Love's but they wouldn't even sell me bulk DEF and as far as I know there's no state tax on DEF.
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10-20-2013, 01:48 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Originally Posted by 1ciderdog
In addition to entrance and exit the concern I have with buying diesel at a gas station is the possibility the diesel may be a bit old, algae, or dirty. When you fill at a truck stop you are pretty much guaranteed fresh fuel. Probably not a real concern unless you hit the wrong station. Just my thought.
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+1 on this, and I'll add that I won't use just any truck stop, either. Name brand only. Pilot/Flying J, Loves, TA, etc. You go to a big truck stop loaded with well known national fleet trucks, and you're virtually guaranteed clean reliable fuel. Their tanks turn over so fast nothing has time to go bad. And there's a reason the national fleets use these stops as well. These trucking companies have to provide reliability to their customers, and so on down the line. You go to "Freddie's Fuel-a-Palooza" to save a few cents, and you have no clue what you're getting or how long its been in the ground.
The great, great preponderance of diesel engine problems relate to fuel. I've got a 150 gallon tank and get about 7-7.5 mpg. If I spend an extra 5 cents per gallon (not often) to know I've got clean fuel, that amounts to an extra $7.50 for every 1000 miles I travel. Cheap.
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10-20-2013, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Passin Thru
Never been refused either but wonder if Indiana still makes you pay cash on the toll road. I will go from Chicago to Indy to get to VA rather than run it.
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Indiana sold total management rights and responsibility for their part of the toll road to an Australian conglomerate about 5-6 years ago, for $8 billion dollars/99 years. Whatever policy one encounters belongs to that conglomerate. I would think driving I 65S, to I 70E, to I 77S, would be a shorter route to VA anyway. It has to be smoother road, I 80 is rough. BTW, you can over-night at Camping World of Indianapolis (I65 exit 99- South of I465), they even have 50A elect, all free, just go inside and ask.
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