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stepside454 · 11-23-2017, 07:58 AM

Like I said , I have headers on it now , they did help some .

nothermark · 11-23-2017, 08:34 AM

I learned a long time ago that beyond some easy changes the cost of increasing power goes up significantly faster than the power increase. That seems to tell me that running with stock is as good as dumping in a lot of money on upgrades. I just putter along as fast as I feel safe and let folks by when the road allows. It's cheaper to change my attitude than to change my vehicle to something significantly faster. All of them eventually get to the top of the mountain.

stepside454 · 11-23-2017, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nothermark

I learned a long time ago that beyond some easy changes the cost of increasing power goes up significantly faster than the power increase. That seems to tell me that running with stock is as good as dumping in a lot of money on upgrades. I just putter along as fast as I feel safe and let folks by when the road allows. It's cheaper to change my attitude than to change my vehicle to something significantly faster. All of them eventually get to the top of the mountain.

Your right . I learned this a long time ago racing . It's pretty cheap to make a 15 sec car go 13s. It gets expensive going from 13s to 12s & so on

Gordon Dewald · 11-23-2017, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nothermark

I learned a long time ago that beyond some easy changes the cost of increasing power goes up significantly faster than the power increase. That seems to tell me that running with stock is as good as dumping in a lot of money on upgrades. I just putter along as fast as I feel safe and let folks by when the road allows. It's cheaper to change my attitude than to change my vehicle to something significantly faster. All of them eventually get to the top of the mountain.

Great attitude. If everyone did this we would have a lot safer roadways.

Easyrider · 11-23-2017, 09:06 AM

I wouldn't worry much about power for the mountains, after all, how much time overall are you going to spend in the mountains? Do what you can to reduce weight, drive sensibly, let others pass where able to, enjoy the ride. Before we started towing a car we used to pass slower vehicles pretty much wherever we encountered them, now we slow down, stay in the slow lane, enjoy the scenery, a cup of coffee, and a snack while going as fast as our conditions allow. We hope to go full time after retiring in 2 years ( oh yes, I'm counting down daily ) and we will look at a different motorhomes after starting our travels. And we dream of a diesel, but I am also concerned about cost of maintaining a diesel vs a gasser. There are some really nice gassers out there and most of the time our motorhome will be parked someplace, so all options are going to be considered ( including keeping and remodeling our current motorhome ) for our probably last motorhome.

rcrevolution · 11-27-2017, 03:38 PM

We passed a mid 30 foot gasser going up a 10% grade over the weekend. He had to have been turning 5000 RPM and doing around 40 MPH. We pulled the grade at 1800 RPM at 60 MPH.

stepside454 · 11-27-2017, 07:58 PM

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We passed a mid 30 foot gasser going up a 10% grade over the weekend. He had to have been turning 5000 RPM and doing around 40 MPH. We pulled the grade at 1800 RPM at 60 MPH.

I don't doubt you , but as som one already said , how often well we be driving in the mountains ? For us , not to often

Mr_D · 11-27-2017, 08:13 PM

For us on the west coast it's a very common thing.

nothermark · 11-27-2017, 11:23 PM

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We passed a mid 30 foot gasser going up a 10% grade over the weekend. He had to have been turning 5000 RPM and doing around 40 MPH. We pulled the grade at 1800 RPM at 60 MPH.

The point is that you both got over the mountain. He had a lot less invested in doing it, you got a nicer ride. Kind of like life in general.

triplewide · 11-28-2017, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rcrevolution

We passed a mid 30 foot gasser going up a 10% grade over the weekend. He had to have been turning 5000 RPM and doing around 40 MPH. We pulled the grade at 1800 RPM at 60 MPH.

Pulling a 5 mile long grade:

@ 60 MPH = about 5 minutes

@ 40 MPH = about 7.5 minutes

To OP: How much money are you willing/able to spend to save 2.5 minutes per climb? To me, being retired and on on fixed income, it is worth $0. I save way more time and money by being organized and having a good route plan.

A high end DP with 650 HP would be my choice if money was not an issue. Until I hit the Lotto I'll have to settle for 362 HP. Sure would like the improved ride on a DP.

vettenuts · 11-28-2017, 06:41 AM

Our coach is a 2005 on the Workhorse W24 chassis. We have looked as well and come to the conclusion that we are not finding a floor plan that corrects those things we dislike about our current coach while keeping the features we like. I would make a list of the features you are seeking in a replacement coach and then look for a floor plan that satisfies your requirements. Then I would look at the chassis and power plant.

Right now, we are doing some upgrades to our coach because to date the only coaches that satisfy our wants are more than I want to spend.

rcrevolution · 11-28-2017, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nothermark

The point is that you both got over the mountain. He had a lot less invested in doing it, you got a nicer ride. Kind of like life in general.

Not if he blows the motor in the process. The only way to get the torque out of a gas engine is to wind it up, and torque is what gets these motor homes down the road. That sort of thing is hard on an engine.

billgallivan · 11-28-2017, 03:56 PM

For about 6500 bucks plus labor you can get a 496 crate motor with 550 hp and 500 lbft with a 2 yr warrantee. All your engine accessories will fit

Crasher · 11-28-2017, 04:05 PM

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We passed a mid 30 foot gasser going up a 10% grade over the weekend. He had to have been turning 5000 RPM and doing around 40 MPH. We pulled the grade at 1800 RPM at 60 MPH.

I've had the C7 Cat engine in a 40' Phaeton and there is no way it would climb a 10% grade of any length at 60 mph. My 450 ISL Cummins won't do it either. If the grade was less than a mile long and I had a run at it, maybe. There's a big difference between a long 6-7% grade on an interstate and a 10% on a curvy mountain road. Must be a pretty good C7 in your Revolution.