Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-04-2017, 02:00 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3
Getting Licensed in NC for >26,000 GVWR MH

This is my first post to iRV2, and my apologies in advance because I didnít check all 512 pages of threads before starting this new one. If thereís a previous discussion please let me know.Background is that Iím a VA resident planning to move to NC this summer and then buying a MH (GVWR > 26,000) after a few months there.After hearing wrong info from three NC DMV offices that no special license is required for an RV (i.e. normal Class C license is OK), I got someone at DMV HQ in Raleigh to check the NC General Statutes and confirm with me that a non-commercial Class B license or higher is required to drive a >26,000 GVWR MH.Even a NC MH dealer told me theyíd been telling people for years that an ordinary Class C license is OK regardless of the MH weight.A road test in a Class B vehicle is required to get the non-commercial Class B license in NC.
My choices for getting a NC non-commercial Class B or higher license seem to be: 1) buy the MH in Virginia before I move (my VA license is OK for >26,000) and show up at the NC DMV to take the road test to get a NC drivers license in that MH (this early purchase alternative is not supported by my wife); 2) go to a CDL school ($2,700 for Class B) in VA before moving, and transfer the VA CDL when I arrive (no road test for transferring the CDL to NC Ė a CDL isnít required, but itís a higher license and will work); 3) Rent a Ryder or similar truck (GVWR > 26,000) on my VA license after I move, and take the NC road test in that to switch licenses from VA to NC; 4) if #3 isnít possible and I already got my NC Class C license, try to talk the senior examiner at the NC DMV office into allowing me to take the road test for a non-commercial Class B license in a rented truck thatís the same size as the >26,000 GVWR truck, but the GVWR actually is <26,000 (which would be legal on a NC Class C license).
Seems difficult for a NC resident with a Class C license to buy and legally drive a >26,000 MH. Anyone ever had to work their way though this Catch-22 where you canít drive a heavy MH without the proper license, but canít get the license without a vehicle to take the road test (not even considering learning how to handle it before the road test)?Any suggestions or comments regarding my list of (or any new) alternatives?
Thanks.
Oneg is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 01-04-2017, 02:49 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 235
Don't move to NC.
__________________
Duncan, 2014 Canyon Star 3610
2014 Honda CRV, wife and cat
Florida and South Carolina
mgtr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 03:09 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Fiesta48's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,264
Fleetwood Discovery 2015

Just go take your test when you and DMV can schedule it.
Noone will know. They don't care either.
__________________
Full Timers.
2015 Fleetwood Discovery 40E on a Freightliner XCS chassis with a Cummins ISL9 pulling 1 and/or 2 motorcycles, '07 Honda Accord OR a 17' Runabout Boat.
Fiesta48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 03:12 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
nctox's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Western NC
Posts: 531
I took my road test for a Class B license in NC back in 2012. I doubt that anything has changed since then, but you might check. I visited the DMV office to inquire about the requirements for the test. I was told to study a portion of the CDL booklet pertaining to air brakes, etc and then come in anytime to take the written (computer) test. After passing that I could schedule the road test in my motor home. I specifically asked about how to get the motor home to the DMV office for the test. The license examiner just looked at me and said she didn't care how I got it there. If I were pulled over on my way there then I might be in trouble, but... (shrugged shoulders)
It might not be the same attitude at every DMV office.
__________________
Seeing this country from ground level.

2016 Allegro Bus 40AP
nctox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 03:21 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
gemert's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 916
Is there a learner's permit?
__________________
Jerry, "EWC (SW)" USN Retired
2003 Beaver Patriot Thunder 505 HP C-12 1550 TQ
Allison 4000MH Ram 4X4 towed
gemert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 03:32 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Saltydog44's Avatar


 
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by nctox View Post
I took my road test for a Class B license in NC back in 2012. I doubt that anything has changed since then, but you might check. I visited the DMV office to inquire about the requirements for the test. I was told to study a portion of the CDL booklet pertaining to air brakes, etc and then come in anytime to take the written (computer) test. After passing that I could schedule the road test in my motor home. I specifically asked about how to get the motor home to the DMV office for the test. The license examiner just looked at me and said she didn't care how I got it there. If I were pulled over on my way there then I might be in trouble, but... (shrugged shoulders)
It might not be the same attitude at every DMV office.
As noted it might not be the same in every location but this is pretty much what I was told also. the examiner said no one would care how I got there but they might not be too happy with me driving away if I failed.

To answer - once you pass the written test, you can schedule and take the driving test. If you fail you get a learner's permit requiring a licensed driver to be with you - problematic since DW doesn't have a license either.

I have a friend who has a license who will go with me to take the driver's test just in case.

A few years ago my buddy took the driving test and was asked to start the rig, back up - move forward and that was it. Probably not so simple these days.
__________________
Cheryl and Emerson missing Rascal but loving our new buddy, Winston
Sadly Coachless
Saltydog44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 03:35 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3
Thank you nctox. I think that's what I'll expect, but I worry less about a ticket than a collision and my insurance company tells me that I wasn't properly licensed, sooooo .... Still, though, what you experienced makes sense to me.

Gemert, I do not believe that there is a learners permit. I specifically asked about that. I said, who expects a teenager to drive a car for the first time when they take the road test? I was told there isn't, but, as I mentioned, I have received mostly incorrect info from DMV so far.

OneG
Oneg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 03:40 PM   #8
Junior Member
 
grindy's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Wilmington N.C.
Posts: 6
I live in N.C. and I think you are really over thinking this. Don't stress over this, Like they told me with my American Tradition, DMV said your good. Sorry can't be of anymore help. I use a Class C. Good travels.
__________________
Richard G.
97 American Tradition 40 TVS
83 BMW R100
grindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2017, 05:54 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Mid Atlantic Campers
Coastal Campers
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,615
Live in NC, and both wife and I have been thru this process, as well as a friend.

It's a non-CDL, class B endorsement you need.

The DMV call center doesn't necessarily know the rules, had to call a couple times to flush out the process, and I talked with a State Policeman that helped tremendously.

Not every DMV facility does this testing, you need to call to find out which facility does it. I live in Raleigh, and the DMV in Cary is the only one around here that has the licensed testers to perform the tests.

You need to go and get a learners permit first, to get it you need to pass a visual/sign test, and pass the 50 question computer test. Need to get at least 40 correct, and can postpone questions to the end if you don't know the answer. Once you get 40 correct the test is over, so you may never have to answer the couple you don't know. Study the CDL questions. They don't have a unique test for class B endorsements, you take the CDL test. Questions on air brakes, placards, everything on CDL. That gets you your learners permit, which makes you legal to drive......IF....you have someone with you who already has a class B or class A license. It's just like being a kid and 16 again, you need to have a licensed driver with you.

Go away and practice, and come back and take the driving test. You will now also need to show proof of you being on the insurance policy for the RV. You may be asked what licensed driver got you there, so I had a licensed friend show up and meet me there. I then was the proxy for my wife. Some testers ask, some don't.

You'll need to do a safety check walk around, explaining what you check and why you check it. They'll ask you to get inside and give you signals to prove all your lights are working. Inside you'll need to show the checks you perform inside before driving the coach (air brake tests, etc). They'll take you on a road test, which can last 20 mins to an hour. Can be on a highway, or city, or both. Perform emergency controlled stops, a panic stop, and both wife and I were asked to back up into a tight spot in their parking lot. They're really most interested in you learning to drive safely, and are very helpful with hints and tips along the way.

Then you get a new regular looking drivers license, but it will have a class B endorsement printed in the endorsement section, similar to how a motorcycle endorsement shows up on your license. It's a nominal charge, don't remember exactly, like 30 bucks or so.

The real challenge is how you are supposed to drive and get any experience, when you don't know anybody who is already legally licensed. I bought the coach, drove it a couple hours to get it home, and was driving it around town before meeting a fellow RV'er in the area.

I suspect you won't find a 'standard' for testing however. There were some commonalities in the three testers, but more differences. Who knows what the testers do in other areas of the state.

I came back the next day after getting my learners permit, and was questioned as to how I could possibly get any learning experience. Told them I'd driven Suburban's for years and have a couple trailers, so familiar with longer heavier vehicles....and more importantly, I wanted to get legal before driving cross country. Wife was in no hurry, went for her drivers test about a year after passing the written and getting her permit.

One last thing, you need to test in a vehicle of the same class that you are trying to get an endorsement in. So need a vehicle over the 26K, the tester checked my Vin sticker on door jamb. I believe that if you test with a gtr 26K non airbrake vehicle (if there is such a beast), that you'll get a class B endorsement, with a restriction for no air brakes.

One extra last thing as I read your post again..... They friend that showed up at DMV on my test day, actually took his test using a rented truck. He was buying his coach in Florida, and wanted to get licensed before driving it home. Need to make sure the rental has the correct weight and air brakes. Not sure how he was allowed to rent it without being licensed, didn't think to ask him about it.
__________________
DaveB, Raleigh, NC
2015 Tiffin RED 33AA, w/Honda CRV
VMSpc, Magnum BMK/ARC50
Kiawah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2017, 06:15 AM   #10
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3
Kiawah,
Very helpful and complete information. Thank you very much for taking the time to respond
OneG
Oneg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2017, 10:01 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Mid Atlantic Campers
Coastal Campers
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,615
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneg View Post
Kiawah,
Very helpful and complete information. Thank you very much for taking the time to respond
OneG
No problem, glad to help. I know how frustrating it was trying to figure out the process.

What is printed on the back of the license is this:

Class B: Any single vehicle that is exempt from CDL requirements with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, and any such vehicle towing a vehicle with a GVWR not in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Restrictions: NONE
__________________
DaveB, Raleigh, NC
2015 Tiffin RED 33AA, w/Honda CRV
VMSpc, Magnum BMK/ARC50
Kiawah is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Uninsured/Non-Licensed RVs In RV Parks ChiefJohn iRV2.com General Discussion 30 01-25-2014 06:04 AM
Tow vehicle...15,000# GVWR TomR New Horizons Owners Forum and NHOG 19 08-07-2011 05:03 PM
How much HP for 30,000 GVWR zzzs Class C Motorhome Discussions 1 04-20-2009 12:13 PM
gvwr, gvwr, ? on towing, overloadiing jwine Class A Motorhome Discussions 8 12-09-2008 02:23 AM
Workhorse To Show New 22,000 lb. GVWR Version At The Tampa Supershow. DriVer RV Industry Press 5 01-05-2008 03:31 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.