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03-01-2020, 06:28 PM
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If you mentioned it I missed it -- is there any fan on this radiator at all right now?
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03-01-2020, 10:57 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Lakewood, WA
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Electric Fan or Hydraulic fan
There is a company called Electric Fan Engineering. The have larger electric cans and they have a line of Hydraulic fans. You can get some help with engineering. I used them to cool school buses.
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03-01-2020, 11:08 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dougout52
There is a company called Electric Fan Engineering. The have larger electric cans and they have a line of Hydraulic fans. You can get some help with engineering. I used them to cool school buses.
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You used them for what, an electric system or a hydraulic system?
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03-02-2020, 07:30 AM
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#46
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Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Florida Gulf Coast
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No, I can’t remember..
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03-02-2020, 09:24 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 55
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mid 80's thru mid 90's Foretravel DP's use a side radiator with dual hydraulic 2 speed fans. Very heavy duty motors with extended bearings to handle the load/weight of the fan.
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03-02-2020, 01:25 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Lakewood, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UV Owners
You used them for what, an electric system or a hydraulic system?
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We used a bunch of Electric fans. They have some very large ones that one would be enough to cool a school bus.
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03-02-2020, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
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Hi UVowner, there is one thing missing you have not mentioned, the required radiator to cool the hydraulic oil.
BTW, my Spartan side-radiator chassis has a hydraulic fan cooling 3 "radiators" in a sandwich style + 2 smaller hydraulic oil coolers on the outside of that,+ 2 electric fans(on for each) on the outside of the oil coolers.
Your pictures indicate you have a mid-engine chassis. Spartan built a mid-engine chassis from 2007-2009 then discontinued production due to an engine overheating issue they nor Newmar Alstar(also side-radiator) model could solve .
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03-02-2020, 09:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
Hi UVowner, there is one thing missing you have not mentioned, the required radiator to cool the hydraulic oil.
BTW, my Spartan side-radiator chassis has a hydraulic fan cooling 3 "radiators" in a sandwich style + 2 smaller hydraulic oil coolers on the outside of that,+ 2 electric fans(on for each) on the outside of the oil coolers.
Your pictures indicate you have a mid-engine chassis. Spartan built a mid-engine chassis from 2007-2009 then discontinued production due to an engine overheating issue they nor Newmar Alstar(also side-radiator) model could solve .
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Ray,
Only time will tell, if I am able to solve the overheating issue or not.
Lord willing it will happen.
BTW - I never left anything out; as this post was ONLY about me asking for fan and radiator SIZES...
Others took this thread down a completely different path, as it can happen on forums. Grin
Thanks,
Tony
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03-04-2020, 09:14 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Anderson, IN (Indianapolis area)
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Sounds like quite a project!
Several comments that may be helpful:
First, we used to live in Orange Park, and I remember seeing diesel pusher school buses in St. John's school system. Not exactly next door, but not far from Orlando.
Second, we have a 1990 DP with the two speed fan. Our Beast is not a wide body, and has that Cat 3208 V8, so less space than an I6 wide body would have.
It's in the shop (long, sad, story), and my manuals are in it. When I get it back I should be able to get you some reference part numbers.
A little description of the system: it has the pump others descrideb, the hydraulic motor, and a valve that controls the speed (slow lazy speed, or roaring speed that follows engine speed)
The valve is controlled by àn thermal NC switching that senses coolant temp.
I think this may the type of system you're looking for.
When I get it back in a few weeks, I'll can take some photos from the bedroom looking down, and from the ground looking up.
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03-03-2021, 10:39 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 150
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Long over due update.
First off - Thank you again to everyone for your help!!
The first week of March 2020, I started getting extremely sick.
Less than a month later, it was getting hard to breath and I was weak.
LSS - The illness dragged on and on and I was in the hospital at one point.
I did not start feeling better until August and even then I was not 100%.
Mid way into the illness, my oxygen stats were in the low to mid 70's.
I'm no doctor, but I was told that was not good and mid 90's is where I want it to be.
With Covid-19 restrictions, I was not able to go get parts and the cost to ship them to Canada was silly.
So, When I was able to finally work on my stuff; I worked on my Toy Hauler Project.
NOW - 2021 - I hope the travel restrictions get lifted this summer and I can do everything I wanted to get done last year. GRIN
I hope to use the truck (Toy Hauler) this year to get the stuff, in the USA, I wanted to buy last year for this project.
I'll post when I have something and keep everyone who is interested update when it happens.
Take care,
Tony
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