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Old 01-23-2018, 02:50 PM   #1
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Help with receiver hitch

We have a 2016 coachmen mirada 35 BH,can we put a 10k receiver hitch on to pull a vehicle instead of the 5k receiver hitch. And if so we could we purchase one
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:08 PM   #2
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The short answer is no. There is a lot more that goes into towing capacity than just the hitch receiver. Brakes, cooling capacity, combined gross weight, and several more issues must be considered.

What are you planning on towing?
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This question comes up every now and then. The short answer is "You should not do it." That answer divides people into two camps:

1) The folks who take that advice and don't modify their coaches, and
2) The folks who don't take that advice and do modify their coaches.

Which camp do you think you would fall into? Because, there's no use folks trying to persuade someone not to do something if his mind is already made up to do it.
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Agree - the answer is a resounding NO.

The receiver provided is based on the motorhome chassis weight capacity, which in this coach (Ford F53 chassis) is a max of 26,000 combined weight of coach and whatever is towed. Since the Mirada can have a loaded weight as high as 22,000 lbs, you may not even be able to tow the full 5000 lb. 10,000 is out of the question! A combined max of 26,000, minus a loaded coach weight of 22,000 would leave only 4000 lbs for whatever it towed. - 22,000.
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Old 01-23-2018, 04:01 PM   #5
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Short question...But an answer cannot be short.

The 35BH has a 26,000 Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR).
Mirada Class A Motorhomes by Coachmen RV

GCWR is the rolling mass that can be moved safely by the chassis (RV, Interior load like people, stuff and tankage, plus the towed load).
See definitions here: http://www.rvsafety.com/weighing/weighing-glossary

To tow 10,000lb, this particular RV would need to weigh-in at loaded weight of 16,000lb or less. This is possible if you modify the RV (to lose weight).
And, the rear frame rails would need to be of adequate strength to allow that much weight on the hook.

If you do this and end-up overweight, be aware that you risk damage to the drive-line (engine, transmission, drive-shaft, and rear axle)...mostly risking the transmission.

A 10,000lb receiver hitch is called a Class IV. Generic Class IV receivers are available from many makers like Reese, Draw-tite, Curt, etc.

Best luck and be safe
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Personally I'm glad you're here asking this question before you go out and do something.

Sounds like maybe you want to pull a big trailer or something.

As stated, this is a 22K GVWR chassis. If you load this MH up with gear, water, fuel etc. and then weigh in at or near 22K...you'll only be able to tow 4K MAX no matter what you do to the hitch. Your governed by the GCWR. And even then you'd be pushing every system to the max. Running over loaded weight & tow will have serious chassis/running gear and safety consequences.

NTSB has stated many times that 60% of ALL RVer's nationwide, are overloaded running down the highways and is one of the main causes for accidents and lost of life.
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You may want to look at the Super C class motorhomes, I think they are rated to row 10,000 lb. It may be easier and safer to trade for a mh that more fits your needs.
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Yes, the OP is asking too much of his rig. Needs something like my rig which has a 15,000# tow rating, but the hitch is only a 10,000# unit. My GVWR is 54,000#'s and the GCVWR is 69,000# so i'd have to change the hitch to uprate.
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What vehicle are you planning on towing?
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I was wanting to pull a car hauler with mustang on it
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Do the numbers.

Tow rating is the lower of:

1. Coach's hitch rating.

2. Coach tow rating.

3. Chassis tow rating (sometimes different than the coach's).

4. The difference in weight between the coach's GCWR and the coach's actual weight when ready to tow.
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All good advise. You can not make a 1/2 ton pickup do the work of a 1 ton dually no matter what hitch you put on it. The same applies to a gas motorhome. I increased our towing capacity from 10,000 to 15,000#, but only after Tiffin said it was ok to do so on our coach. Now, I have seen 36' gas motorhomes pulling a 24' enclosed trailer that had to far exceed the 5000# rating I'm sure it had, but I wouldn't want to trust the transmission or frame to take that kind of overload very long. That said, I recall reading of a guy reinforcing the frame and adding 10,000# hitch to a workhorse frame. I think he was towing a 9000# trailer with a 1000# tongue weight. It's not recommended, but he has made it work...........So far!
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